[PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lights

Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Wed Mar 2 07:49:19 EST 2016


The all-round white light is just a convenient (in some cases) way of combining the 225° white masthead light (indicating a power driven vessel), with the 135° white stern light into a single lamp. I am not aware of specific prescriptions in the international colregs for submarines. I thought amber strobes denoted ACV (hovercraft)?

Sean


On March 2, 2016 5:12:52 AM MST, John Kammerer via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>Antoine
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>The lights show side lights (red and green), masthead light (lower 
>white) special sub strobe (amber) and range light higher (white light) 
>for vessels over 150' which is not always used on subs.
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>Your boat is only required to display Port (Red) and Starboard (Green) 
>side lights (For small boat under 40' combo light OK) and one all
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>(360 Deg.) white light. If underway after sunset or in reduced 
>visibility.
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>John K.
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>On Wed, Mar 02, 2016 at 05:05 AM, Antoine Delafargue via 
>Personal_Submersibles wrote:
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>ok thank you
>the 3 lights that the military subs use and that are visible on the
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>in my case I am just less than 7m and less than 7kt so all round white 
>light would be enough
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>regards
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>On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:05 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de via 
>Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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>Here they are: 
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>http://www.c-dynamics.co/images/products/Lighting/C-Dynamics_Hella-Marine-Lighting_IMO-COLREG-72-Lights-Visibility-Powerboats.jpg
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><http://www.c-dynamics.co/images/products/Lighting/C-Dynamics_Hella-Marine-Lighting_IMO-COLREG-72-Lights-Visibility-Powerboats.jpg>
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>http://content.westmarine.com/wm-img/westadvisor/articles/Navigation-lights-1.jpg
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><http://content.westmarine.com/wm-img/westadvisor/articles/Navigation-lights-1.jpg>
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>http://www.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0009/117567/Power-Vessels.png 
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>http://img.bhs4.com/E7/E/E7E547B242CDC4C0A69BEFECF2FD2A5973D91A91_large.jpg
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><http://img.bhs4.com/E7/E/E7E547B242CDC4C0A69BEFECF2FD2A5973D91A91_large.jpg>
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>http://rlv.zcache.com/navigation_lights_international_rules_poster-rbe7a13f840aa4bb8b56f61d6d50afeab_i1021_8byvr_1024.jpg
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><http://rlv.zcache.com/navigation_lights_international_rules_poster-rbe7a13f840aa4bb8b56f61d6d50afeab_i1021_8byvr_1024.jpg>
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>Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lights
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>Datum: 2016-03-01T01:16:27+0100
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>Von: "John Kammerer via Personal_Submersibles" 
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>An: "PSUBS, Inc." <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
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>Antoine
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>Colregs allow for a vessel under 40' to display a combo red and green  
>and an all around (360 deg) white to replace the masthead and stern 
>lights.
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>John L.
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>On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 05:53 PM, Antoine Delafargue via 
>Personal_Submersibles wrote:
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>Hi Carsten 
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>thanks for bringing this subject up. 
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>where did you find these rules for ligthing subs?  international or 
>european or german ones? 
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>-i tried in colreg rules online but  could not find text for subs 
>travelling on surface
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>-I found a reference to sub on some of the more comprehensive summary 
>drawings showing all sorts of vessels 
>(http://www.sentinelpressllc.com/colregsnavigationlights.html 
><http://www.sentinelpressllc.com/colregsnavigationlights.html> ). Subs 
>to come in with left green side lights, as well as 3 mast lights white 
>225° /amber 360° /white 225°
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>-then the colreg rules for vertical separation of lights seem to say 
>lower mast light 2m above deck mini, then other two lights at least 1m 
>from each other (2m if boat over 20m long)
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>all in all this makes a christmas tree 4 m high from top deck...
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>-then also some online chat talking about exceptions for subs for
>height 
>above water. 
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>for my litttle 6m boat I was planning to use off the shelf lights (2nm)
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>and fit it in the acrylic tube which serves as mast and buoy (which i 
>found the inspiration for looking at your videos!!), with its own power
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>and IR remote switch
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>but it is only 1m long, not 4...
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>On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:47 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de via 
>Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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>Hmm.
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>Toplight              245
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>Anchor Light       215
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>Sternlight           230
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>Strobelight   abt. 250
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>Portside light      215
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>Starboard light.   215
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>1370 Euro   - 1500  USD
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>But on a 1-3 seater Psub you can run with just
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>One Anchor light and one combination Position ligh red and green
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>Together 215 +  239 = 454 Euro - 500 USD
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>Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lights
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>Datum: 2016-02-29T21:21:36+0100
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>Von: "John Kammerer via Personal_Submersibles" 
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>An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" 
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>The Lopo lights at rated for 600 m. A full setup for a vessel under 20
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>with the special sub Strobe is about $2,300.
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>John K.
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>On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles 
><personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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>Looked them up, and OUCH. About USD400 each. Carsten wasn't kidding.
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>Best,
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>On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 1:38 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de via 
>Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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>they are called Lopolight. But wait one season for our results after 
>diving..
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>http://www.lopolight.com/ <http://www.lopolight.com/>
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>They are very expensive too..
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>Betreff: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lights
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>Datum: 2016-02-29T08:42:49+0100
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>Von: "Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles" 
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>An: "PSubs" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
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>Carsten,        Are those new navigation lights something that you guys
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>made?   or adapted from some existing lights?
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>Brian Cox
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