[PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lights

Wed Mar 2 07:12:52 EST 2016

Antoine

The lights show side lights (red and green), masthead light (lower 
white) special sub strobe (amber) and range light higher (white light) 
for vessels over 150' which is not always used on subs.

Your boat is only required to display Port (Red) and Starboard (Green) 
side lights (For small boat under 40' combo light OK) and one all around 
(360 Deg.) white light. If underway after sunset or in reduced 
visibility.

John K.
(203) 414-1000

On Wed, Mar 02, 2016 at 05:05 AM, Antoine Delafargue via 
Personal_Submersibles wrote:

ok thank you
the 3 lights that the military subs use and that are visible on the last 
link had me confused. 

in my case I am just less than 7m and less than 7kt so all round white 
light would be enough

regards
Antoine

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:05 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de via 
Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

Here they are: 

http://www.c-dynamics.co/images/products/Lighting/C-Dynamics_Hella-Marine-Lighting_IMO-COLREG-72-Lights-Visibility-Powerboats.jpg 
<http://www.c-dynamics.co/images/products/Lighting/C-Dynamics_Hella-Marine-Lighting_IMO-COLREG-72-Lights-Visibility-Powerboats.jpg>

http://content.westmarine.com/wm-img/westadvisor/articles/Navigation-lights-1.jpg 
<http://content.westmarine.com/wm-img/westadvisor/articles/Navigation-lights-1.jpg>

http://www.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0009/117567/Power-Vessels.png 
<http://www.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0009/117567/Power-Vessels.png>

http://img.bhs4.com/E7/E/E7E547B242CDC4C0A69BEFECF2FD2A5973D91A91_large.jpg 
<http://img.bhs4.com/E7/E/E7E547B242CDC4C0A69BEFECF2FD2A5973D91A91_large.jpg>

http://rlv.zcache.com/navigation_lights_international_rules_poster-rbe7a13f840aa4bb8b56f61d6d50afeab_i1021_8byvr_1024.jpg 
<http://rlv.zcache.com/navigation_lights_international_rules_poster-rbe7a13f840aa4bb8b56f61d6d50afeab_i1021_8byvr_1024.jpg>

vbr Carsten

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Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lights

Datum: 2016-03-01T01:16:27+0100

Von: "John Kammerer via Personal_Submersibles" 
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org>

An: "PSUBS, Inc." <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>

Antoine

Colregs allow for a vessel under 40' to display a combo red and green  
and an all around (360 deg) white to replace the masthead and stern 
lights.

John L.

(203)414-1000 <tel:%28203%29414-1000>

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 05:53 PM, Antoine Delafargue via 
Personal_Submersibles wrote:

Hi Carsten 

thanks for bringing this subject up. 

where did you find these rules for ligthing subs?  international or 
european or german ones? 

-i tried in colreg rules online but  could not find text for subs 
travelling on surface

-I found a reference to sub on some of the more comprehensive summary 
drawings showing all sorts of vessels 
(http://www.sentinelpressllc.com/colregsnavigationlights.html 
<http://www.sentinelpressllc.com/colregsnavigationlights.html> ). Subs 
to come in with left green side lights, as well as 3 mast lights white 
225° /amber 360° /white 225°

-then the colreg rules for vertical separation of lights seem to say 
lower mast light 2m above deck mini, then other two lights at least 1m 
from each other (2m if boat over 20m long)

all in all this makes a christmas tree 4 m high from top deck...

-then also some online chat talking about exceptions for subs for height 
above water. 

for my litttle 6m boat I was planning to use off the shelf lights (2nm) 
and fit it in the acrylic tube which serves as mast and buoy (which i 
found the inspiration for looking at your videos!!), with its own power 
and IR remote switch

but it is only 1m long, not 4...

regards

Antoine

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:47 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de via 
Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

Hmm.

Toplight              245

Anchor Light       215

Sternlight           230

Strobelight   abt. 250

Portside light      215

Starboard light.   215

1370 Euro   - 1500  USD

But on a 1-3 seater Psub you can run with just

One Anchor light and one combination Position ligh red and green

Together 215 +  239 = 454 Euro - 500 USD

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Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lights

Datum: 2016-02-29T21:21:36+0100

Von: "John Kammerer via Personal_Submersibles" 
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org>

An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" 
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org>

The Lopo lights at rated for 600 m. A full setup for a vessel under 20 m 
with the special sub Strobe is about $2,300.

John K.

(203) 414-1000

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles 
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

Looked them up, and OUCH. About USD400 each. Carsten wasn't kidding.

Best,

Alec

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 1:38 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de via 
Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

they are called Lopolight. But wait one season for our results after 
diving..

http://www.lopolight.com/ <http://www.lopolight.com/>

They are very expensive too..

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Betreff: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lights

Datum: 2016-02-29T08:42:49+0100

Von: "Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles" 
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org>

An: "PSubs" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>

Carsten,        Are those new navigation lights something that you guys 
made?   or adapted from some existing lights?

Brian Cox

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