[PSUBS-MAILIST] New submarine

[Douglas Suhr]

Wow! $125K for 2500 - 3000 feet? That's some serious dollar-to-fathom
value!


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:14 PM, swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:

> $125,000 is reachable for me. Sounds like this could be a reality.
> Thanks,
> Scott Waters
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> Vance Bradley <VBra676539 at AOL.com> wrote:
> He said in an interview that Idabel cost $125,000.
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> On Apr 8, 2014, at 10:03 PM, Douglas Suhr <spiritofcalypso at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Scott, I have no experience with any large pressure chambers, but I am
> sure you are talking well into the thousands (perhaps $15,000 to $35,000)
> depending on how long it takes to set up the required tests (and perform
> them).
>
> I truly admire your ambition, but like Hank suggested, 1000 feet may be a
> better 2nd sub goal. If I were planning to go beyond 1000 feet, I would be
> looking to Nuytco, SeaMagine or Triton but of course cost is then a major
> issue again. Does anyone know about how much Karl spent building Idabel? ~
> Douglas S.
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> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:48 PM, swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:
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>> Any idea as to the cost of pressure testing that kind of pressure?
>> Also, I am not a engineer, but am fairly good at designing things in my
>> head. If I designed this in CAD, does psubs have a good way of sharing CAD
>> files for who ever would like too look at my designs and bounce ideas off
>> of?
>> I would love for this project to be a way for psubs to increase overall
>> psubs knowledge of cutting edge and affordable solutions for things like
>> sonar and manipulator arms and things.
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Waters
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>> Sent from my U.S. Cellular(c) Smartphone
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>> Vance Bradley <VBra676539 at AOL.com> wrote:
>> Maryland and California (Navy) and Texas (southwest research).
>> Vance
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 8, 2014, at 7:14 PM, swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:
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>> So is the design of crush depth of 1750m and test to 1250m the idea? Next
>> question is where can you find a pressure chamber that has 1670psi
>> capability?
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Waters
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>> Sent from my U.S. Cellular(c) Smartphone
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>> Alan James <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Scott,
>> in general people design their boats with a crush depth of
>> twice their operating depth, then test them to 1.25 or 1.5 x
>> there proposed maximum operating depth.
>> So design to 2000 meters & test it to 1250 meters.
>> Alan
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>>  *From:* swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com>
>> *To:* personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 8, 2014 4:29 PM
>> *Subject:* [PSUBS-MAILIST] New submarine
>>
>> I am playing with the idea of building another submarine. Here is what I
>> am thinking.
>> 1) This project needs to be as challenging as the same amount of
>> difficulty as it was to build my first submarine
>> 2) I want to have lots of bottom time with my K-350 to learn what needs
>> to be improved on in design and ability.
>> 3) Learn to use CAD
>> 4) Project will take 5-7 years to complete
>>
>> My initial goals are
>> 1) Hold 3 people
>> 2) Weigh 10,500lbs or less
>> 3) Depth of 3,300 feet (1000m)
>> 4) Have a very effective range of abilities such as a good manipulator
>> arm and tooling
>> 5) Have a wide veiwing maybe a acylic dome front
>>
>> Ok, shoot holes in the ideas. What will be the main challenges to
>> overcome? What complications am I not considering?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Waters
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