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<p style="margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">What Jon says. And more. If you are not paying for it, you are the product being sold.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">While it's easier to share photos and stuff on FB they have designed it so that people prefer to keep their communities "closed" to non-FB members so that can drive up FB signups. There is also the constant drive to monetize your data and to monetize you. This leads to all sorts of things that should be illegal (and a bunch that are illegal), such as targeting children even when it was internally known their product was harmful to children. Or the psychological experiments where they modified users' feeds to make them depressed (push lots of negative stories into their feeds) because depressed people tend spend more money and this leads to more ad conversions (FB gets more money back before the ad click led to a sale). Or heavily pushing Qannon. Or selling your data to Cambridge Analytica so they could try to effect the out comes of elections around the world. Or their program which monetized certain mental illnesses (detecting when people were having a bad "episode" and show them ads of things they would be highly likely to buy). And that's just scratching the surface of the public things we know about FB.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">Thanks for keeping the mailing list up Jon!</p>
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<p>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br>Sent: Jan 9, 2024 4:56 AM<br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Happy new year.</p>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">There's little doubt FB makes it easy to share photos and documents...something the mailing list just won't support very well. My biggest concern is the lack of privacy as the company collects information about every little piece of minutia that you look at or contribute then shares that info with other companies and worse yet, with the government. FB doesn't provide settings to circumvent that.</div>
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<div>By hacked, do you mean duplicated?</div>
<div>Duplicating an account is easy, & I've seen it done several times.</div>
<div>I tell people to adjust their settings so only friends can see your friends list. Or alternatively no one can see your friends list.</div>
<div>With those settings no hacker could be bothered duplicating your account, because without access to your friends there is no point in impersonating you.</div>
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<div style="padding: 10px 0 0 20px; margin: 10px 0 0 0; border-left: 1px solid #6D00F6;">So far, 2024 seems to be working out ....<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I quit Facebook when my account was hacked twice, in six weeks, by two <br clear="none">different persons.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
<div id="ydpb2a61b01yiv7905461913yqtfd88149" class="ydpb2a61b01yiv7905461913yqt1383351264"><br clear="none">On 1/8/2024 11:41 AM, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles wrote:<br clear="none">> Hi All<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Happy new year to everyone!. I'm just checking people are still <br clear="none">> here? Is everyone using facebook or something instead now? The <br clear="none">> mailing list has been a bit quite recently.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" shape="rect">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" shape="rect">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></div>
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