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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Hugh, thanks for update on QSub. I am looking forward to her dunk test in your new test pool. I quite enjoyed sitting in her pressure hull in your shop in New Zealand a few years back. She will be quite something when complete.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Best</div><div><br></div>
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<div><div dir="ltr">Thanks, Cliff, Alec, Vance, Jon.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The model I was looking at, correction, was the Oberdorfer 994 which is same<br></div><div dir="ltr">as a 2000 series but 3/8" - 1/2" and direct mounted not foot mounted as per<br></div><div dir="ltr">the 2000 series.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The other pump I liked was the Wanner D10 which is diaphragm and can do no<br></div><div dir="ltr">slippage and 250 -300 psi etc but it is not bidirectional. However that can<br></div><div dir="ltr">be fixed with valves.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I am making some progress with my Q-Sub but made the mistake of going too<br></div><div dir="ltr">complex and trying to do everything. I have had issues with ---<br></div><div dir="ltr">1. BMS systems for the LiFePO4 batteries and had to replace these.<br></div><div dir="ltr">2. Precharge systems for the 72 v and 144 volt electrics and voltage spikes.<br></div><div dir="ltr">3. Gear cable kinking for the mercruiser sternlegs.<br></div><div dir="ltr">4. Inaccessible fuses and not motor rated.<br></div><div dir="ltr">5. Mechanical seal leakage on the hydraulics.<br></div><div dir="ltr">6. Joystick pot issues.<br></div><div dir="ltr">7. Canbus systems at different voltages.<br></div><div dir="ltr">8. Rotary sensors too coarse required op amp addition to amplify signals for<br></div><div dir="ltr">small rotary movements with steering.<br></div><div dir="ltr">9. Port Engine starting issues.<br></div><div dir="ltr">10. Oil compensation line fittings leaks.<br></div><div dir="ltr">11. Software issues.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Still plugging along. IN the meantime I have built a test pool same-same<br></div><div dir="ltr">Hank 8 ft deep 12 wide x 27 long, and another gantry crane for PVHO removal,<br></div><div dir="ltr">as well as a shed just for the sub. This year it has to be finished. Has<br></div><div dir="ltr">not even been in the pool yet!!<br></div><div dir="ltr">Regards, Hugh<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-----Original Message-----<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>> On<br></div><div dir="ltr">Behalf Of via Personal_Submersibles<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2023 3:21 AM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 120, Issue 36<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Send Personal_Submersibles mailing list submissions to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="http://www.whoweb.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.whoweb.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-request@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles-request@psubs.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You can reach the person managing the list at<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-owner@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles-owner@psubs.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than<br></div><div dir="ltr">"Re: Contents of Personal_Submersibles digest..."<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Today's Topics:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> 1. Re: FW: VBT pump (Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 2. Re: FW: VBT pump (Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 3. Re: FW: VBT pump (Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 13:29:07 +0000 (UTC)<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] FW: VBT pump<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:536726240.403633.1692192547749@mail.yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">536726240.403633.1692192547749@mail.yahoo.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> Hugh, on my original design for the R300 I had a hard VBT just aft of the<br></div><div dir="ltr">pilot. At the time I had a small HPU in the boat.? My plan was to use a<br></div><div dir="ltr">Oberdorfer Bronze gear pump driven by a small hydraulic motor to move water<br></div><div dir="ltr">in and out of the VBT.? I don't remember the specs on the pump.? I had<br></div><div dir="ltr">motorized ball valves on the vent and flood side of the VBT.? Prior to using<br></div><div dir="ltr">this set up, I did some testing of this gear pump which I still have.? What<br></div><div dir="ltr">I found was an unacceptable amount of flow slippage at my max design depth.?<br></div><div dir="ltr">There was so much slippage that the pump could not blow the VBT at max<br></div><div dir="ltr">depth.? At that point I abandoned using a pump and vent to blowing the VBT<br></div><div dir="ltr">with air.? I eventually abandoned the VBT altogether for operability<br></div><div dir="ltr">reasons.? When I used this hard VBT to get neutral on the surface, the<br></div><div dir="ltr">pressure in the tank was low.? When at depth if I ever tried to use the VBT,<br></div><div dir="ltr">water would rush in until the pressure equalized with ambient water<br></div><div dir="ltr">pressure.? This made the boat nega!<br></div><div dir="ltr"> tively buoyant until air was added.? The other thing that bugged me was I<br></div><div dir="ltr">had a float style level sensor in the VBT.? The water level in the VBT was<br></div><div dir="ltr">always moving around so you never trust the reading.? I eventually abandoned<br></div><div dir="ltr">the VBT and now just add ballast at the boat CG where the VBT was located.?<br></div><div dir="ltr">I find this works great.? The other issue is the VBT restricted access to<br></div><div dir="ltr">equipment aft of the VBT so to work on any of this equipment, I had to<br></div><div dir="ltr">remove the VBT.? ?All in all, I found the VBT to be a pain in butt.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Cliff<br></div><div dir="ltr">Oberdorfer 944 Bronze<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 04:57:24 PM CDT, via Personal_Submersibles<br></div><div dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote: <br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi Guys<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> ?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">What make of pump is best for VBT water transfer in/out for 250 psi 1.5 kw.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I am looking at a gear pump 1.5kw Oberdorfer 944 Bronze.? These are only<br></div><div dir="ltr">rated for 10 bar.? I tried an hydraulic gear pump 30cc where I had a<br></div><div dir="ltr">stainless and bronze gear set made up but the aluminium body corroded form<br></div><div dir="ltr">the trials and I just found that they had used steel backed sleeve bearings.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> ?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Regards,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hugh<br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><<a href="http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20230816/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20230816/</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">b13a39c1/attachment-0001.html><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 2<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 09:41:53 -0400<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] FW: VBT pump<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <CABECYQ7JnW3k0Jz+wtvG64tx4pApp=vj5vkF9yWW2NN0fQMU3Q@mail.gmail.com><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I second that (getting rid of VBT). I got rid of the VBT in my K250 years<br></div><div dir="ltr">ago to make space and turn it into a 2-person and to try and to simplify,<br></div><div dir="ltr">and it worked so well I never thought of using any other method on the<br></div><div dir="ltr">current sub. The only difference with Cliff's method is that I add or remove<br></div><div dir="ltr">floats, while he uses ballast. But either way, once you have a reference<br></div><div dir="ltr">point for how much ballast/buoyancy you need for a given crew weight, you<br></div><div dir="ltr">just make incremental changes and it never fails. You may be off neutral by<br></div><div dir="ltr">just a few pounds, but if you have vertical thrusters they're usually just<br></div><div dir="ltr">ticking over at slow RPMs to compensate.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Best,<br></div><div dir="ltr">Alec<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 9:30?AM Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Hugh, on my original design for the R300 I had a hard VBT just aft of <br></div><div dir="ltr">> the pilot. At the time I had a small HPU in the boat. My plan was to <br></div><div dir="ltr">> use a Oberdorfer Bronze gear pump driven by a small hydraulic motor to <br></div><div dir="ltr">> move water in and out of the VBT. I don't remember the specs on the <br></div><div dir="ltr">> pump. I had motorized ball valves on the vent and flood side of the <br></div><div dir="ltr">> VBT. Prior to using this set up, I did some testing of this gear pump <br></div><div dir="ltr">> which I still have. What I found was an unacceptable amount of flow <br></div><div dir="ltr">> slippage at my max design depth. There was so much slippage that the <br></div><div dir="ltr">> pump could not blow the VBT at max depth. At that point I abandoned <br></div><div dir="ltr">> using a pump and vent to blowing the VBT with air. I eventually <br></div><div dir="ltr">> abandoned the VBT altogether for operability reasons. When I used <br></div><div dir="ltr">> this hard VBT to get neutral on the surface, the pressure in the tank <br></div><div dir="ltr">> was low. When at depth if I ever tried to use the VBT, water would <br></div><div dir="ltr">> rush in until the pressure equalized with ambient water pressure. <br></div><div dir="ltr">> This made the boat negatively buoyant until air was added. The other <br></div><div dir="ltr">> thing that bugged me was I had a float style level sensor in the VBT. <br></div><div dir="ltr">> The water level in the VBT was always moving around so you never trust <br></div><div dir="ltr">> the reading. I eventually abandoned the VBT and now just add ballast <br></div><div dir="ltr">> at the boat CG where the VBT was located. I find this works great. The<br></div><div dir="ltr">other issue is the VBT restricted access to equipment aft of<br></div><div dir="ltr">> the VBT so to work on any of this equipment, I had to remove the VBT.<br></div><div dir="ltr">All<br></div><div dir="ltr">> in all, I found the VBT to be a pain in butt.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Cliff<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Oberdorfer 944 Bronze<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 04:57:24 PM CDT, via <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Personal_Submersibles < <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Hi Guys<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> What make of pump is best for VBT water transfer in/out for 250 psi 1.5<br></div><div dir="ltr">kw.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I am looking at a gear pump 1.5kw Oberdorfer 944 Bronze. These are <br></div><div dir="ltr">> only rated for 10 bar. I tried an hydraulic gear pump 30cc where I <br></div><div dir="ltr">> had a stainless and bronze gear set made up but the aluminium body <br></div><div dir="ltr">> corroded form the trials and I just found that they had used steel backed<br></div><div dir="ltr">sleeve bearings.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Regards,<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Hugh<br></div><div dir="ltr">> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><<a href="http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20230816/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20230816/</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">b5338913/attachment-0001.html><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 3<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 15:20:44 +0000 (UTC)<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] FW: VBT pump<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1959084270.469930.1692199244774@mail.yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">1959084270.469930.1692199244774@mail.yahoo.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> I'll chime in here...I removed the VBT from the K600 because it was fairly<br></div><div dir="ltr">well rusted inside and needed to be replaced, however I am planning on using<br></div><div dir="ltr">the ballast/float method instead and forgoing the VBT altogether for many of<br></div><div dir="ltr">the reasons Alec and Cliff cited.? I will say that it can be challenging to<br></div><div dir="ltr">change ballast on-station since the weight/floatation has to be transferred<br></div><div dir="ltr">somewhere and by somebody, however I see the K600 being trimmed for specific<br></div><div dir="ltr">missions prior to launch and not being trimmed dynamically on-station to<br></div><div dir="ltr">embark/disembark passengers or equipment.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Jon<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 09:43:35 AM EDT, Alec Smyth via<br></div><div dir="ltr">Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote: <br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"> I second that (getting rid of VBT). I got rid of the VBT in my K250 years<br></div><div dir="ltr">ago to make space and turn it into a 2-person and to try and to<br></div><div dir="ltr">simplify,?and it worked so well I never thought of using?any other method on<br></div><div dir="ltr">the current sub. The only difference with Cliff's method is that I add or<br></div><div dir="ltr">remove floats, while he uses ballast. But either way, once you have a<br></div><div dir="ltr">reference point for how much ballast/buoyancy you need for a given crew<br></div><div dir="ltr">weight, you just make incremental changes and it never fails. You may be off<br></div><div dir="ltr">neutral by just a few pounds, but if you have vertical thrusters they're<br></div><div dir="ltr">usually just ticking over at slow RPMs to compensate.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Best,Alec<br></div><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 9:30?AM Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles<br></div><div dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> Hugh, on my original design for the R300 I had a hard VBT just aft of the<br></div><div dir="ltr">pilot. At the time I had a small HPU in the boat.? My plan was to use a<br></div><div dir="ltr">Oberdorfer Bronze gear pump driven by a small hydraulic motor to move water<br></div><div dir="ltr">in and out of the VBT.? I don't remember the specs on the pump.? I had<br></div><div dir="ltr">motorized ball valves on the vent and flood side of the VBT.? Prior to using<br></div><div dir="ltr">this set up, I did some testing of this gear pump which I still have.? What<br></div><div dir="ltr">I found was an unacceptable amount of flow slippage at my max design depth.?<br></div><div dir="ltr">There was so much slippage that the pump could not blow the VBT at max<br></div><div dir="ltr">depth.? At that point I abandoned using a pump and vent to blowing the VBT<br></div><div dir="ltr">with air.? I eventually abandoned the VBT altogether for operability<br></div><div dir="ltr">reasons.? When I used this hard VBT to get neutral on the surface, the<br></div><div dir="ltr">pressure in the tank was low.? When at depth if I ever tried to use the VBT,<br></div><div dir="ltr">water would rush in until the pressure equalized with ambient water<br></div><div dir="ltr">pressure.? This made the boat nega!<br></div><div dir="ltr"> tively buoyant until air was added.? The other thing that bugged me was I<br></div><div dir="ltr">had a float style level sensor in the VBT.? The water level in the VBT was<br></div><div dir="ltr">always moving around so you never trust the reading.? I eventually abandoned<br></div><div dir="ltr">the VBT and now just add ballast at the boat CG where the VBT was located.?<br></div><div dir="ltr">I find this works great.? The other issue is the VBT restricted access to<br></div><div dir="ltr">equipment aft of the VBT so to work on any of this equipment, I had to<br></div><div dir="ltr">remove the VBT.? ?All in all, I found the VBT to be a pain in butt.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Cliff<br></div><div dir="ltr">Oberdorfer 944 Bronze<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 04:57:24 PM CDT, via Personal_Submersibles<br></div><div dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote: <br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi Guys<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> ?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">What make of pump is best for VBT water transfer in/out for 250 psi 1.5 kw.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I am looking at a gear pump 1.5kw Oberdorfer 944 Bronze.? These are only<br></div><div dir="ltr">rated for 10 bar.? 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