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<p style="margin: 0px;">Datum: 2023-07-03T17:57:06+0200</p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">Von: "MerlinSub@t-online.de via Personal_Submersibles" <personal_submersibles@psubs.org></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Germany has a lot of homebuild (experimental) Planes and submarines. </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Nobody cares - as long as you not kill paying passengers.. </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">But sometimes the owner of the water (lake, river) want to see some papers. </span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">I did some years ago a request to the "Oskar Ursinus" Society (The psubs for homebuild planes here) </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">to integrate a 40 years old 1400 HP gasturbine (RR Gnome) from a helicopter into a Blanik glider. </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">They saw no problem with that. </span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Comment was "warp around you turbine blade casing some cevlar- so that nobody -outside- the plane will be hit</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">in case the turbine has a catastropic failture".. </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">But I don't think that you can carry paying guest on a regular base in "experimental" aircrafts. </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Special not in a glider which can climb with +200km/h - 18 km vertical in less than 3 Minutes - with two guys in old MIG21 suits. </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">And for 250.000 USD ticket for the second seat. </span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">I have no problem with what was Oceangate did to research new technology. They did test, build models, install acustic checks and so on. </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">I have a problem with the fact that paying guest pay the bill with there life - special if they are 19 years old </span><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">and without the nessesary life expierence.</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">The two Psubs submarines Emile build and I design for paying guest are both classed. </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">All the other subs design for private owners only - including my own - not. </span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Titan submersible missing at Titanic site</p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">Datum: 2023-07-03T09:00:44+0200</p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">Von: "Marc de Piolenc via Personal_Submersibles" <personal_submersibles@psubs.org></p>
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<div dir="ltr">France is a good example of regulatory overreach with a culture of "everything is forbidden unless it is specifically authorized". It probably explains why I am probably the only builder of 1atm subs I know of here, and still, I had to register my sub with british flag (imagine that ;-)) with a super special authorization process now to dive here.</div>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">And yet, until recently at least, France had an active experimental aircraft movement building and flying a wide variety of airplanes.</p>
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<div dir="ltr">I think I can address what Marc is referring to in his “despite its heavy leftism” comment. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Right now the media in the United States is horribly broken to the point that we really don’t have any news organizations that tell news. Rather they find a few items that they will consider “facts” and they will create a narrative of “this is the truth and everything else is a lie” commentary. Very frustrating for the average citizen who just wants to stay informed. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">The same exact event will have two distinctly separate approaches to how it is represented in the media. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">It is fairly awful. </div>
<div dir="ltr">This is compounded by the multiple events over the past few years where the government was openly lying ( or protecting the public from the truth) about Covid, it’s origin and possible treatments - and the American people have lost faith in the government AND the media. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Only made worse by the government directly involving itself in social media to control what can be and will be allowed to be discussed. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Marc’s initial comment “despite its heavy leftism” was to acknowledge that the magazine is typically viewed as having opinions that would only be endorsed by 1/2 of the country and that it would be typical tactics in their journalistic integrity to demean the person involved and not address facts of the case. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">He was saying “even though recent history of this magazine would let us know they are going to do a bad job, they did an even worse job than expected.” </div>
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<div dir="ltr">I personally get my news from the BBC. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">At least I’m digesting someone else’s propaganda. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Our system is broken. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Most normal Americans realize it but are powerless to stop it. </div>
<div dir="ltr">For a time when we have almost the best of everything in history, we are busy creating our own conflicts and racial divides because it serves the major political parties. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">My father passed away last year at almost 94 years old. </div>
<div dir="ltr">He told me once, “Son, the world is going to hell, but I’m getting out in time.” </div>
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<div dir="ltr">The older I get. The more I embrace that sentiment. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">AND…you still have the most awesome personal submersible I have ever seen. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Best personal regards, </div>
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<div dir="ltr">(Marc -please correct me if I am wrong) </div>
<div dir="ltr">(Everyone else - I don’t mean to enter any sort of political debate here about anything - just trying to put Marc’s statement into context for our European colleagues. )</div>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">Datum: 2023-07-02T07:01:28+0200</p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">Von: "Marc de Piolenc via Personal_Submersibles" <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">An: <a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.deviaPersonal_Submersibles">"MerlinSub@t-online.de via Personal_Submersibles"</a> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">And the character assassination and innuendos are running full blast. Despite its heavy leftism, I would have expected something more like journalistic integrity from The New Yorker.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">The article did reveal one fact that I had not seen, namely that the occupants had time enough to release weights before the fatal implosion. The acoustic sensors did work, but did not give sufficient margin.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">The rest is essentially irrelevant but damaging floss. Endless harping about the controller, which was completely irrelevant to this accident, as the author and his informants must have known.</p>
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<div>On 7/2/2023 3:53 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via Personal_Submersibles wrote:</div>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">Von: <a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.deviaPersonal_Submersibles">"MerlinSub@t-online.de via Personal_Submersibles"</a> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">I have done the calculation again for a spherical shell sector window with conical edge 160Mpa and CF 4.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">According to this, a window with 530/376 & 60° would have to be<br />would have a wall thickness of 161 mm - according to photos it was 140 mm at 60° or 110 mm at a 90° fit. <br />A 90° window would have needed 132 mm thickness according to the code. <br />Now.. 140 to 161 mm or 110 to 132 mm is not far off - and considering the window was inside straight - means there was more material there. </span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">Von: <a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.deviaPersonal_Submersibles">"MerlinSub@t-online.de via Personal_Submersibles"</a> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">Von: <a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.deviaPersonal_Submersibles">"MerlinSub@t-online.de via Personal_Submersibles"</a> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">Diameter hull 1600 mm (given) </p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">Diameter front porthole outside 614 mm</p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">But given with the outer window diamter given by Jon of just 530 I come to </p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">Diameter front porthole inside 376 mm </p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">If I do with the 530 / 376 a little reverse enginering on a conical seat of 60°</p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">I come to a thickness of just 120 mm for a inside and outside flat conical frustrum window. </p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">According to PVHO-1-1987 t /Di = 0,348 with t = 0,348 x 376 mm = 162 mm at 40 Mpa (4000m)</p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">But from Jon's picture it seems more a Sperical Sector Window with Conical Edge. and flat inside. </p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">The code has no figures for such a window. </p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">But if I use for Sherical Shell windows t/di shall 0,195 means t = 0,195 x 376 = 73 mm</p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">To be diplomatic I just mix up the flat with the sperhical and got (162 + 73) / 2 = 117,5 mm </p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">The code says if you have not a standard geometrie - you have to test 5 windows to destroy dephs </p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">Datum: 2023-06-30T16:11:40+0200</p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">Von: "Antoine Delafargue via Personal_Submersibles" <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a></p>
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<div>for the thickness, I read that the viewport should have been rated for 1300meters depth, so I think that the designer designed for a short term critical pressure of 5200m/52MPa, and perhaps thought it would be fine using a 1.3X margin to get to 4000m rather than the 4X margin we can find in Stachiw book and PVHO rules for low temperatures (to be checked but I believe it is 4x). </div>
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<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">I check out some pictures and based on a given length of 6500mm </span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Diameter hull 1600 mm</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Diameter front porthole outside 700 mm</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Diameter front porthole inside 466 mm </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">(these diameters indicate that the porthole could be original designed as entrance..)</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Now idear about the thickness of the acrylic </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">- but will check out PHSME about standard flange angles tonight. </span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Titan submersible missing at Titanic site</p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">Datum: 2023-06-30T15:31:14+0200</p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">Von: "<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via Personal_Submersibles" <<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">For me it looks like the biggest diameter porthole used in that deep. </span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Has somebody here inner and outer diameter and the thickness?</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Titan submersible missing at Titanic site</p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">Datum: 2023-06-29T21:11:55+0200</p>
<p style="margin: 0px;">Von: "Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles" <<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></p>
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<div dir="ltr">The pictures of Titan that I see in water show 16 bolts holding the retaining ring in place. See attached photo.</div>
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<div>On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 11:49:18 AM EDT, <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via Personal_Submersibles <<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">I have seen a video how they make the carbon cylinder and can imagine that the boat imploded in longitudinal direction. </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Create a massive shock wave with push the window out (not in). As I saw in another video the window was hold by only 4 bolts outside. </span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">All titan parts in the video seems undamaged. </span></p>
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