<div dir="ltr">hello, <div>Everyone is pushing a narrative: </div><div>OceanGate was pushing the innovation vs regulation narrative, to such a crazy/flawed extent it now risks hurting all innovators. </div><div>Triton does not want its customers to evaporate and being put in the same bag as OceanGate. Their frustration is understandable given the level of warning they had given. they are pushing the classification is essential narrative (which I think is good for vehicles with passengers, especially deep)</div><div>I guess we as a group are anxious not to see a curtain of regulations falling down on any psubs activities as a fall out from the accident, and our narrative is that non-classification or off the shelf components are not bad per se, what matters is sound engineering. (we should talk to the media as much as we can to that end)</div><div>Media are probably sensationalizing everything. </div><div><br></div><div>France is a good example of regulatory overreach with a culture of "everything is forbidden unless it is specifically authorized". It probably explains why I am probably the only builder of 1atm subs I know of here, and still, I had to register my sub with british flag (imagine that ;-)) with a super special authorization process now to dive here.</div><div>that is too bad because the country had a wealth of submersible know-how and innovative spirit in the Cousteau&Comex days. </div><div><br></div><div>regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Antoine</div><div><br></div><div> </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 12:53 AM Marc de Piolenc via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>That's it, except that Left bias in the media goes back long
before COVID.</p>
<p>Marc de Piolenc<br>
</p>
<div>On 7/3/2023 6:34 AM, Gregory Snyder via
Personal_Submersibles wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Hi Carsten!</div>
<div dir="ltr">I think I can address what Marc is referring to in
his “despite its heavy leftism” comment. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">Right now the media in the United States is
horribly broken to the point that we really don’t have any news
organizations that tell news. Rather they find a few items that
they will consider “facts” and they will create a narrative of
“this is the truth and everything else is a lie” commentary.
Very frustrating for the average citizen who just wants to stay
informed. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">The same exact event will have two distinctly
separate approaches to how it is represented in the media. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">It is fairly awful. </div>
<div dir="ltr">This is compounded by the multiple events over the
past few years where the government was openly lying ( or
protecting the public from the truth) about Covid, it’s origin
and possible treatments - and the American people have lost
faith in the government AND the media. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Only made worse by the government directly
involving itself in social media to control what can be and will
be allowed to be discussed. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">Marc’s initial comment “despite its heavy leftism”
was to acknowledge that the magazine is typically viewed as
having opinions that would only be endorsed by 1/2 of the
country and that it would be typical tactics in their
journalistic integrity to demean the person involved and not
address facts of the case. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">He was saying “even though recent history of this
magazine would let us know they are going to do a bad job, they
did an even worse job than expected.” </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">I personally get my news from the BBC. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">At least I’m digesting someone else’s propaganda. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">Our system is broken. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Most normal Americans realize it but are powerless
to stop it. </div>
<div dir="ltr">For a time when we have almost the best of
everything in history, we are busy creating our own conflicts
and racial divides because it serves the major political
parties. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">My father passed away last year at almost 94 years
old. </div>
<div dir="ltr">He told me once, “Son, the world is going to hell,
but I’m getting out in time.” </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">The older I get. The more I embrace that
sentiment. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">AND…you still have the most awesome personal
submersible I have ever seen. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">Best personal regards, </div>
<div dir="ltr">Greg </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">(Marc -please correct me if I am wrong) </div>
<div dir="ltr">(Everyone else - I don’t mean to enter any sort of
political debate here about anything - just trying to put Marc’s
statement into context for our European colleagues. )</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">
<blockquote type="cite">On Jul 2, 2023, at 12:51 PM,
<a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de" target="_blank">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via Personal_Submersibles
<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a> wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Marc,
what means "Despite its heavy leftism" ? </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">And
how can a sounding system help you on a fiber with the
elastic behaviour of glass?</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Carsten</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Titan
submersible missing at Titanic site</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Datum: 2023-07-02T07:01:28+0200</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Von: "Marc de Piolenc via
Personal_Submersibles"
<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a></p>
<p style="margin:0px">An: <a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.deviaPersonal_Submersibles" target="_blank">"MerlinSub@t-online.de via
Personal_Submersibles"</a>
<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font:12px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<p style="margin:0px">And the character assassination and
innuendos are running full blast. Despite its heavy
leftism, I would have expected something more like
journalistic integrity from The New Yorker.</p>
<p style="margin:0px">The article did reveal one fact that
I had not seen, namely that the occupants had time enough
to release weights before the fatal implosion. The
acoustic sensors did work, but did not give sufficient
margin.</p>
<p style="margin:0px">The rest is essentially irrelevant
but damaging floss. Endless harping about the controller,
which was completely irrelevant to this accident, as the
author and his informants must have known.</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Marc de Piolenc</p>
<div>On 7/2/2023 3:53 AM, <a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de" target="_blank">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via
Personal_Submersibles wrote:</div>
<blockquote>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none"><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/a-reporter-at-large/the-titan-submersible-was-an-accident-waiting-to-happen?fbclid=IwAR0CN7CyK3Ok72HX4Mf0n6sB6uc95sE-nH5_N1KDrqA5XHU1vx_k8eUCbfo" target="_blank">The Titan Submersible
Implosion Was “an Accident Waiting to Happen” | The
New Yorker</a></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Best insider
description so far. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Carsten</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Titan
submersible missing at Titanic site</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Datum: 2023-07-01T12:13:41+0200</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Von: <a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.deviaPersonal_Submersibles" target="_blank">"MerlinSub@t-online.de via
Personal_Submersibles"</a> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a></p>
<p style="margin:0px">An: "Personal Submersibles General
Discussion" <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font:12px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">I have done the
calculation again for a spherical shell sector
window with conical edge 160Mpa and CF 4.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">According to this,
a window with 530/376 & 60° would have to be<br>
would have a wall thickness of 161 mm - according to
photos it was 140 mm at 60° or 110 mm at a 90° fit.
<br>
A 90° window would have needed 132 mm thickness
according to the code. <br>
Now.. 140 to 161 mm or 110 to 132 mm is not far off
- and considering the window was inside straight -
means there was more material there. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">I now think the
window was OK from a pressure design point of view.
To be precise you would need a cross-section drawing
with the real geometry.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Carsten</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
Titan submersible missing at Titanic site</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Datum: 2023-06-30T22:29:35+0200</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Von: <a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.deviaPersonal_Submersibles" target="_blank">"MerlinSub@t-online.de via
Personal_Submersibles"</a> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a></p>
<p style="margin:0px">An: "Personal Submersibles
General Discussion" <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font:12px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">If I use
these 120 mm (STCP) and a CF of 4 it was good for
around 1000 m. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px">With 120 mm thickness it was
at collapse deep. </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">Carsten</p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
Titan submersible missing at Titanic site</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Datum:
2023-06-30T22:18:31+0200</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Von: <a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.deviaPersonal_Submersibles" target="_blank">"MerlinSub@t-online.de via
Personal_Submersibles"</a> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a></p>
<p style="margin:0px">An: "Personal Submersibles
General Discussion" <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font:12px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">I found
a much better picture and correct the figures as
follow:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">Diameter hull
1600 mm (given) </p>
<p style="margin:0px">Diameter front porthole
outside 614 mm</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Diameter front porthole
inside 436 mm </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">But given with the outer
window diamter given by Jon of just 530 I come to </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">Diameter hull
1381mm</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Diameter front porthole
outside 530 mm (given)</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Diameter front porthole
inside 376 mm </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">If I do with the 530 / 376 a
little reverse enginering on a conical seat of 60°</p>
<p style="margin:0px">I come to a thickness of
just 120 mm for a inside and outside flat conical
frustrum window. </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">According to PVHO-1-1987 t
/Di = 0,348 with t = 0,348 x 376 mm = 162 mm at
40 Mpa (4000m)</p>
<p style="margin:0px">(for Short term critical
presssure) </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">But from Jon's picture it
seems more a Sperical Sector Window with Conical
Edge. and flat inside. </p>
<p style="margin:0px">The code has no figures for
such a window. </p>
<p style="margin:0px">But if I use for Sherical
Shell windows t/di shall 0,195 means t = 0,195 x
376 = 73 mm</p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">To be diplomatic I just mix
up the flat with the sperhical and got (162 + 73)
/ 2 = 117,5 mm </p>
<p style="margin:0px">(for Short term critical
presssure) </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">The code says if you have
not a standard geometrie - you have to test 5
windows to destroy dephs </p>
<p style="margin:0px">and use the lowest failture
pressure for your calculation. </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">Carsten</p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
Titan submersible missing at Titanic site</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Datum:
2023-06-30T16:11:40+0200</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Von: "Antoine Delafargue via
Personal_Submersibles" <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a></p>
<p style="margin:0px">An: "Personal Submersibles
General Discussion" <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font:12px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div dir="ltr">Hello Carsten,
<div> </div>
<div>for the thickness, I read that the viewport
should have been rated for 1300meters depth,
so I think that the designer designed for a
short term critical pressure of 5200m/52MPa,
and perhaps thought it would be fine using a
1.3X margin to get to 4000m rather than the 4X
margin we can find in Stachiw book and PVHO
rules for low temperatures (to be checked but
I believe it is 4x). </div>
<div> </div>
<div>regards</div>
<div>Antoine</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, Jun
30, 2023 at 4:03 PM <a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de" target="_blank">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a>
via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>>
wrote:</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">I check out some pictures and
based on a given length of 6500mm </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">I come to the following rough
figures: </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Diameter hull
1600 mm</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Diameter front porthole outside
700 mm</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Diameter front porthole inside
466 mm </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">(these diameters indicate that
the porthole could be original designed
as entrance..)</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Now idear about the thickness of
the acrylic </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">- but will check out PHSME about
standard flange angles tonight. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Carsten</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Betreff: Re:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] Titan submersible missing
at Titanic site</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Datum:
2023-06-30T15:31:14+0200</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Von: "<a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de" target="_blank">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a>
via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></p>
<p style="margin:0px">An: "Personal
Submersibles General Discussion" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font:12px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">For me it looks like the
biggest diameter porthole used in that
deep. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Has somebody here inner and
outer diameter and the thickness?</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Carsten</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Betreff: Re:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] Titan submersible
missing at Titanic site</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Datum:
2023-06-29T21:11:55+0200</p>
<p style="margin:0px">Von: "Jon Wallace
via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></p>
<p style="margin:0px">An: "Personal
Submersibles General Discussion" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px"> </p>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font:12px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div>
<div> </div>
<div dir="ltr">The pictures of Titan
that I see in water show 16 bolts
holding the retaining ring in
place. See attached photo.</div>
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<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">I have seen a video
how they make the carbon
cylinder and can imagine
that the boat imploded in
longitudinal direction. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Create a massive
shock wave with push the
window out (not in). As I
saw in another video the
window was hold by only 4
bolts outside. </span></p>
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<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">All titan parts in
the video seems
undamaged. </span></p>
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<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Carsten</span></p>
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