<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Alec, yes it takes a community to do what we do. Look how far we have come collectively. <div>Hank<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 15, 2022, at 7:22 AM, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hah, I *knew* you'd come up with something like that! It's funny how each person here is either an Arduino person, a PLC person, etc. They all work.<div><br></div><div>Alec</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 8:07 AM hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hi guys, thanks for the input. I will take it as a compliment that you think I can manage these electronic solutions. <div>I will opt for a more simple system. I ordered a compressor pressure switch. I will modify the low pressure setting. The switch will activate a small solenoid to fill the chamber to 175 psi. The chamber will have a bleed valve that is constantly bleeding very slowly. Once the pressure drops to near zero, the switch will tell the solenoid to fill the chamber again. We can time the cycle, and walk away for a month. </div><div>Hank<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 13, 2022, at 8:33 PM, Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"></div>
<div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px">Hank,</div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px">I would use a direct acting cartridge style proportional pressures reducing valve, something like a Hydraforce <span><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:Montserrat;font-size:16px">EHPR08-33X </span></span><a href="https://www.hydraforce.com/products/valves/electro-proportional-controls/ehpr08-33/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hydraforce | Pressure Rising with Current - EHPR08-33</a>. These are installed in a small aluminum manifold in which you connect hydraulic tubing with Swagelok fittings. These valves let you specify a control signal, usually 4-20mA. They then can be used to automatically hold the pressure and any level between zero and the maximum your pressure supply can make. You then use a small inexpensive PLC like the Automation Direct Click PLC <a href="https://www.automationdirect.com/adc/overview/catalog/programmable_controllers/click_plcs_(stackable_micro_brick)" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CLICK (Stackable Micro Brick PLC) | AutomationDirect</a> along with pressure transducer and an inexpensive small touch screen display. Again, you can get these from Automationdirect. You would also need to install in the PLC an analog current output that will would be connected to the proportional pressure regulator. You then program the PLC with your laptop with some simple ladder logic that sends the control current to the proportional pressure regulator to step through the pressures you want the test chamber to see over time. Most of these small PLC's have data logging capability so you can log test chamber pressure as a function of time. If you also installed a contactor on the power to the pressure supply, the PLC could be programed to shut down the system if the viewport failed based on the measured test chamber pressure dropping to zero. </div><div><br></div><div id="m_-2277882189093666668ydp42158c62enhancr_card_8717910036" style="max-width:400px;font-family:YahooSans,"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://www.automationdirect.com/adc/overview/catalog/programmable_controllers/click_plcs_(stackable_micro_brick)" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="max-width:400px"><tbody><tr><td width="400"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224,228,233);border-radius:2px"><tbody><tr><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background:rgb(255,255,255);width:100%;max-width:400px;border-radius:0px 0px 2px 2px;border-top:1px solid rgb(224,228,233)"><tbody><tr><td style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);padding:16px 0px 16px 12px;vertical-align:top;border-radius:0px 0px 0px 2px"></td><td style="vertical-align:middle;padding:12px 24px 16px 12px;width:99%;font-family:YahooSans,"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;border-radius:0px 0px 2px"><h2 style="font-size:14px;line-height:19px;margin:0px 0px 6px;font-family:YahooSans,"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,34,40);max-width:314px">CLICK (Stackable Micro Brick PLC) | AutomationDirect</h2><p style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px;margin:0px;color:rgb(151,158,168)">Save on CLICK Series Programmable Logic Controllers at AutomationDirect, your source for Click PLCs at low price...</p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><div dir="ltr">These proportional pressures reducing valve could also be run with a microprocessor like Jon uses and setup in a similar way.</div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px">Best </div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><div id="m_-2277882189093666668ydp70c3b12enhancr_card_8469163983" style="font-family:YahooSans,"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;max-width:400px"><a href="https://www.hydraforce.com/products/valves/electro-proportional-controls/ehpr08-33/" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="max-width:400px"><tbody><tr><td width="400"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224,228,233);border-radius:2px"><tbody><tr><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background:rgb(255,255,255);width:100%;max-width:400px;border-radius:0px 0px 2px 2px;border-top:1px solid rgb(224,228,233)"><tbody><tr><td style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);padding:16px 0px 16px 12px;vertical-align:top;border-radius:0px 0px 0px 2px"></td><td style="vertical-align:middle;padding:12px 24px 16px 12px;width:99%;font-family:YahooSans,"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;border-radius:0px 0px 2px"><h2 style="font-size:14px;line-height:19px;margin:0px 0px 6px;font-family:YahooSans,"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,34,40);max-width:314px">Hydraforce | Pressure Rising with Current - EHPR08-33</h2><p style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px;margin:0px;color:rgb(151,158,168)">PROPORTIONAL PRESSURE REDUCING / RELIEVING CARTRIDGE VALVE</p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a><div style="width:100%;height:100%;display:flex;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0.3)"><div><div><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u></div></div></div></div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px">. </div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br></div>
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