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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>This YouTube guy is really a puzzle. I sent him an email about our group and about SportSubs without response from him. He has some friends providing technical support, but it is a learning curve for him that won't be too steep, and he certainly plays up the drama. Playing up the drama seems to be his main reason for getting the sub. Ambient subs are pretty benign and fairly safe for trained divers. He should do alright, especially with the click count.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>When I first bought my sub in late 2011 (built under license by another firm) Ron Leonard of IVC was very helpful with advice. However, he was not interested in providing any support, not even a copy of the maintenance manual. I met up with him to buy some SportSub t-shirts, but that's it. Last communications that I had was May 2019 to buy a few newer t-shirts for my wife and me to wear while at the Dive & Travel Show in Long Beach, CA. For some reason Ron was just not able to make it happen. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It looks to me that IVC Corp, the original SportSub manufacturer, is no longer in business and now operates as Sport Sub under Area58 Innovations Inc. (Rob Shantz, CEO). They have a newer facility in Coquitlam, BC (near Vancouver) where they are manufacturing an updated SportSub, and perhaps some other models. Ron was there back in 2019, but I have not tried to contact Ron or Rob since.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The web site "sportsub.com" and the FaceBook group "SportSub Personal Submarines" appear to be going concerns. The latest post on the FaceBook group was Aug17/22.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I will try contacting them, maybe even drop by. If you are interested I will let you know how it goes. I know, SportSubs are not K-350's, but they do have their own merits.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Tim<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Douglas Suhr via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 30, 2022 2:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] YouTube guy bought a 1998 Sport Sub<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>The saga continues! <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdaNGLcIous">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdaNGLcIous</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>While the guy's attitude is perhaps closer to a cavalier showman than a cautious psub operator, I'm genuinely interested in his videos. Several years ago I purchased a Sportsub hull (directly from IVC I might add) with the aim of building a Sportsub piecemeal in the garage. But pretty soon I lost all support from the manufacturer. They first told me they didn't have the parts in stock, but when I offered to pay upfront and wait for the parts on backorder, they quit returning my emails / phone calls altogether. I was very disappointed that I was 'blacklisted' but with my limited technical abilities there was little hope of completing the project, so I ended up selling the fiberglass hull. Anyway, I'm always been interested in these subs so I'm following his videos to see what I can learn. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Someday I hope to check out Tim's Sportsub in person... it's a prime example of the machine! ~ Douglas S. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 2:35 PM Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks Ray,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I pointed him to Psubs, but in the comments under his video, he has just made contact with the manufacturer.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Great that he has jumped in the deep end. He will learn.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Alan<o:p></o:p></p><div id="gmail-m_9087214053722631955ymail_android_signature"><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature" target="_blank">Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-left:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'>On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 at 5:09 am, Ray Keefer via Personal_Submersibles<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div style='border:none;border-left:solid #6D00F6 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 15.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div id="gmail-m_9087214053722631955yiv4051083412"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Howdy,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I cringed when I saw this. I can't tell if he is truly ignorant or being a comedian with his tongue-and-cheek comments. This guy has a huge learning curve ahead. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSQwe7BW35Q&list=TLPQMjYwODIwMjLox8Ikdcx-tA&index=4" target="_blank">I Bought A PERSONAL SUBMARINE From 1998!! (130+ Feet DEEP)</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="gmail-m_9087214053722631955yiv4051083412ydpae951ab5enhancr_card_2503780338"><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td width=400 style='width:300.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%;border:solid #E0E4E9 1.0pt'><tr style='height:131.25pt'><td valign=top style='border:none;background:black;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:131.25pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:11.25pt 0in 0in 11.25pt'></td><td valign=top style='padding:11.25pt 11.25pt 0in 0in'></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td style='border:none;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;border-radius:0px 0px 0px 2px'><div align=center><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%;background:white;border:none;border-top:solid #E0E4E9 1.0pt;background-size:auto;max-width:400px;border-radius:0px 0px 2px 2px'><tr><td valign=top style='border:none;padding:12.0pt 0in 12.0pt 9.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'><img border=0 width=36 height=36 id="gmail-m_9087214053722631955ymail_ctr_id_-509964-2" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D8BD5F.5787CCD0" alt="Image removed by sender."></span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width="99%" style='width:99.0%;border:none;padding:9.0pt .25in 12.0pt 9.0pt;border-radius:0px 0px 2px'><h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:4.5pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:14.25pt;max-width:314px'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1D2228'>I Bought A PERSONAL SUBMARINE From 1998!! (130+ Feet DEEP)<o:p></o:p></span></h2></td></tr></table></div></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Ray<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>