<div><div>I should have mentioned why I performed this test. I too is trying to verify the cracking pressure for my automatic over pressurization valve. This was the only way I knew to test so I could select the proper spring strength.</div><div><br/></div><div>Steve</div><div><br/></div><div><font style="color:#333333"><i>Sent from my Verizon Motorola Smartphone</i></font></div></div><div class="elided-text">On Dec 24, 2020 11:00 AM, Steve via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br type='attribution'><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>FYI, In my K250, while testing for leaks, I created approx. 1 psig positive internal pressure. I did not notice any issues. Of course it was only for a limited time.</div><div><br /></div><div>Steve</div><div><br /></div><div><font style="color:#333333"><i>Sent from my Verizon Motorola Smartphone</i></font></div></div><div class="elided-text">On Dec 23, 2020 2:29 AM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br /><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div></div><div>Hi Alec,</div><div>I'm behind in my emails here, but I would guess that most of your bow</div><div>dome would be under water when you surfaced, still undergoing an external</div><div>water pressure that decreases towards the surface. </div><div>That would be countering the internal pressure to an extent, so maybe not so</div><div>much of a worry as a hatch dome.</div><div>Alan</div><div><br /></div><div><br />On 14/12/2020, at 12:40 PM, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br /><br /></div><blockquote><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Jon,<div><br /></div><div>Ah, the one that needs discussion in my opinion is the internal pressure. For every 1psi of internal over-pressure, my bow dome sees 566 lbs of force trying to blow it out of the sub (at the surface of course.) How much can it take before blowing out? I don't know, and it's not something I can test. The highest I've ever gone I think is 0.5psi over ambient. On the negative side, there's no problem of course and one could go to a much higher value with no problem. Internal pressure is the reason an overpressure valve is essential, but there again I'm running a little by the seat of my pants at the moment because although I have a large OP valve, I don't know its cracking pressure. Cliff, however, is coming to the rescue soon because he is planning to actually measure this. More to follow sometime soon...</div><div><br /></div><div>Note the color coding thresholds on my cabin pressure faceplate (attached.) They are not scientific, however, and the thresholds would in any case be dependent on construction details of each sub.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Best,</div><div>Alec</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div></div><br /><div class="elided-text"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 12:43 PM Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:'times new roman' , 'new york' , 'times' , serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr">I'm looking to start a discussion to create a PSUBS standard for max/min cabin operating conditions. I'm not convinced temp or humidity matter all that much overall and require an agreement. I would start with the following:</div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr">O2: 19.0 to 23 percent</div><div dir="ltr">CO2: 0 to 5000 ppm</div><div dir="ltr">Pressure: +/- 1psi</div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr">Comments?</div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br />
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