<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-size: 13px;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><br>For folks who are wondering what all the fuss is about, there a couple of documentaries that give an <div>intro into some of the problems:</div><div>Social Dilemma (2020)</div><div>The Great Hack (2019)</div><div><br></div><div>They are worth checking out, even just the trailers.  They are aimed at being "successful"</div><div>movies, and put a dramatic spin on things at times, but convey the general idea.</div><div><br></div><div>Sorry for the off topic post.</div><div><br></div><div>Ian</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 0px; border-left: #0000ff 2px solid; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial,sans-serif; color: black;">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Michael Holt via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
<br>Sent: Nov 7, 2020 7:31 PM
<br>To: "Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles" <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
<br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Facebook Page live and doing well

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'll never again use Facebook.  I have
      a page but as long as I used it, I'd get mail from businesses I
      didn't know and from persons with whom I had not exchanged mail
      since 2002.<br>
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      On 11/7/2020 2:32 PM, Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles
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      Amen, Ian.<br>
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      Brian - I'm also not a Facebook user, but would be interested to
      view if you can get it up on PSubs.<br>
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      On Nov. 7, 2020, 12:13, irox via Personal_Submersibles <
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            Hi Brian,
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              this awesome!  Any chance they could be put on the
              psubs.org or <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.subdb.info">www.subdb.info</a> for all to see?
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              <div>Although Facebook appears 'free' money-wise to use
                there is a *massive* cost in using it, to the
                individual, their associates, and
                society/humanity/civilization at large.</div>
              <div>That cost is far too much for me to consider paying
                (intimate access to influence and control you).  For the
                last 13+ years my day job has been in the information</div>
              <div>security and privacy realm, protecting user data at
                another large user data broker company (from the that
                company and it's/my-fellow employees).</div>
              <div>I highly recommend not using facebook at all.</div>
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              <div>Cheers,</div>
              <div>  Ian.</div>
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                  From: Brian Hughes via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
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                    Sent: Nov 7, 2020 5:53 AM
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                      Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Facebook Page live and
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Hey,</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">If you’re not on the
                          Facebook page too consider this an
                          encouragement. John Maynard recently sent me
                          all the documentation that Kittredge had sent
                          his father when the Captain shut down his
                          business.  I’ve been posting pictures of some
                          of it.  Also there are other great ideas and
                          photos popping up.  Send a join request.</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Brian</p>
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