<div dir="ltr">I see. Even a ballast tank system that allows the vessel to submerge less than 10-20 meters below surface level would suffice for research purposes. It is mainly to test the effectiveness of various radar absorbing materials, so there is no need for the vessel to be able to reach great depths in this case, although if it's possible to engineer such modifications that would be fantastic. If you do view them in person, please do inform me as to what they're equipped with. Either way, I would love to come see them myself in person too whenever that is possible. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:13 PM Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><font size="2">Rich, I think maybe you answered your own question. They are interesting vessels and could possibly be adapted to ambient submarines . Or they could be used as vessels for use near shore or in a bay for research. I may go take a look at them and see how they're set up inside.</font><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">Brian</font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font><br><span style="font-size:10pt">--- <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:</span><br><br><span style="font-size:10pt">From: Rich T via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br><span style="font-size:10pt">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br><span style="font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Life boats</span><br><span style="font-size:10pt">Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:36:51 -0400</span><br><br><span style="font-size:10pt">I am assuming that no, it is not possible, considering the entire purpose of a lifeboat is to remain afloat under extreme circumstances. </span><br><br><span style="font-size:10pt">On Monday, August 10, 2020, Rich T <</span><a href="mailto:rbernard0011@gmail.com" style="font-size:10pt" target="_blank">rbernard0011@gmail.com</a><span style="font-size:10pt">> wrote:</span><br><blockquote style="font-size:10pt;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Brian, thank you for your correspondence. Regarding the matter at hand, I am less of an engineer and more of a general consultant/emissary in the venture I described. The group of engineers is mostly comprised of STEM students at Berkeley, and I can certainly arrange for a trailer to transport the vessels to their storage and work facilities there. If the oil company is willing to provide its own trailers, even better. However, I failed to realize the vessel currently has no ability to submerge. Based on your current knowledge of the vessels, do you think they can be converted into submarines if a ballast tank system and whatnot are installed? <br><br>On Sunday, August 9, 2020, Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Yes, but you wouldn't have to get the distance exactly right. Just into a range.<br><br>Sean<br><br>-------- Original Message --------<br>On Aug. 9, 2020, 21:06, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles < <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote><br><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><font size="2">I think you would still need some sort of brake on the reel with the counter weight method, otherwise the counter weight would just keep traveling back to the sub.</font><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">Brian</font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font><br><span style="font-size:10pt">--- <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:</span><br><br><span style="font-size:10pt">From: "Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br><span style="font-size:10pt">To: <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br><span style="font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Life boats</span><br><span style="font-size:10pt">Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2020 15:46:10 +0000</span><br><br><span style="font-size:10pt">I don't know if this is possible in a sub-deployed embodiment, but when I run a downline buoy for diving, I hang a snatch block under the buoy, and size the line to be somewhat longer than the water depth, with a counterweight on one end (typically, anchor weight is 60 lbs, and counterweight is 15 lbs). This acts to pull the buoy to be vertically in line with the anchor, while still allowing for tidal height change and sea state.</span><br><br><span style="font-size:10pt">With a deployed buoy, you could do something similar at the buoy end, so that once the buoy reached surface any additional deployed line would be pulled down by a counterweight and keep the buoy in position. You can also shackle the counterweight back to the main line, so that it follows it down, and you have the entire length of that line as the compensation range, and only need to reel in line when the counterweight hits the sub, which you could verify visually if the land point was covered by a viewport.</span><br><br><span style="font-size:10pt">Sean</span><br><br><span style="font-size:10pt">-------- Original Message --------</span><br><span style="font-size:10pt">On Aug. 9, 2020, 09:21, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles < <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote style="font-size:10pt"><br><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><font size="2">Great video ! Do you just go up as far as you can on the beach and then wait for the tide to go out ? </font><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">I'm curious as to how other sub mad men handle the float buoy. It seems you would want it just at the surface with not a lot of slack in the line. I was thinking to have a "brake" on the reel so I could stop it when it gets to the surface and to stop it free wheeling.</font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">Brian</font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font><br><span style="font-size:10pt">--- <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:</span><br><br><span style="font-size:10pt">From: Rich T via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br><span style="font-size:10pt">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br><span style="font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Life boats</span><br><span style="font-size:10pt">Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 00:00:27 -0400</span><br><br><span style="font-size:10pt">Yes. I have enormous use for them. I am located in </span><div style="font-size:10pt">Los Angeles as well. May I come view the vessel in person? I am organizing a group of engineers in California who are interested in tinkering with burgeoning stealth technology for submarines, which the government may actually pay for if patents are secured. A vessel like this would be perfect for such experiments. <br><br>On Saturday, August 8, 2020, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div></div><div>Hi Jim,</div><div>good to hear you are still alive!</div><div>Thanks for correcting my "American" I am sure I must say things that </div><div>are misinterpreted all the time. I do that with women!</div><div>My other thought was to make a large ambient sub out of them. I am sure</div><div>Tim Novak would be thinking " underwater habitat".</div><div>Alan</div><div><br>On 9/08/2020, at 2:56 PM, Jim via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div>Alan,<div>You were the first person who came to mind when I saw this thread. I knew you would come up with some inventive purpose for it and probably wonder if there was a way you could get your hands on it. </div><div> “Caravan” has a very different meaning in the other parts of the English-speaking world than it does in the United States. The term we would use is “camper.” Caravan brings to mind a string of camels. </div><div>Jim T. <br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote>On Aug 8, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div>Hey Brian,</div><div>just stick it on a trailer & use it as a caravan.</div><div>Have seen an Australian floating caravan before!</div><div>Alan</div><div><br>On 9/08/2020, at 8:54 AM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><font size="2">Hi All, A friend of mine who works in the Oil industry offshore is offering me two of these lifeboats for free. Anyone have a use for them? </font><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">Brian</font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote><div><IMG_20200730_153156.jpg></div></blockquote><blockquote><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><br></div></blockquote><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><blockquote><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><span style="font-size:10pt">
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