<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>Tim,</div><div>I am wondering how old the acrylic sphere is.</div><div>If you had to replace that at any time it would cost a fortune.</div><div>I guess you could de-rate the sphere for personal use if it were</div><div>getting old.</div><div>Alan</div><div><br>On 9/07/2020, at 11:55 AM, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Uh oh, the Aquatica Stingray is for sale practically right in my back yard, and was manufactured in nearby West Vancouver.  Hmm… considering that this sub had an original price tag over $1M makes me wonder if they are no longer in business.  <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I saw my SportSub for sale in the Orlando FL Craigslist, only to find it FOB a half hour drive away from me where it was manufactured.  I told them I couldn't afford it so they offered it to me at a price I could not refuse.  Sometimes things just fall out of the sky and into your lap.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Tim<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Personal_Submersibles [<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>T Novak via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 8, 2020 4:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion' <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Alternate propulsion idea:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Tough call, David.  The car conversion would have to be ambient, if not fully wet.  There's also a fiberglass DeLorean lookalike bodied hovercraft out there that could be modified to submerge.  It wouldn't take too much putty for you to make it spectacular.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Tim<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Personal_Submersibles [<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Colombo via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 8, 2020 3:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Alternate propulsion idea:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">21k for the car / future sub, or current bid $81k for this sub.....<br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Best Regards,<br>David Colombo<br><span style="border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><image001.jpg></span><br>804 College Ave<br>Santa Rosa, CA. 95404<br>(707) 536-1424<br><a href="http://www.SeaQuestor.com" target="_blank">www.SeaQuestor.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:35 PM Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">OH! I hadn't thought of turning it into a sub like the Esprit. I should stop getting ideas from you guys... that one's a bit too tempting!<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 2:04 PM T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The interior looks pretty rough. But that could be removed and replaced with something more appropriate for a wet sub.  That would be more accessible than that fiberglass Lotus wet sub that has gone crazy in value.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Tim</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:02 AM<br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Alternate propulsion idea:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Here's one for $20K. Needs some TLC all right, but very restorable thanks to the stainless.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/delorean/dmc-12/2404129.html" target="_blank">https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/delorean/dmc-12/2404129.html</a>  <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 12:15 PM David Colombo via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204)"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Alec, What's a reasonable price for a time machine?<br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Best Regards,<br>David Colombo<br><span style="border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><image001.jpg></span><br>804 College Ave<br>Santa Rosa, CA. 95404<br>(707) 536-1424<br><a href="http://www.SeaQuestor.com" target="_blank">www.SeaQuestor.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 6:48 AM Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204)"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Maybe not, but it should do 88mph<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:00 AM Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204)"><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">1.21 GW?<br><br>Sean<br>-------- Original Message --------<br>On Jul. 8, 2020, 06:56, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles < <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">There is a burgeoning sub-culture of people doing "EV swaps" and a ton of resources online. It's where car tuning is at the moment. In fact I'm sort of eyeing it myself, though I won't have garage space until junior heads to college in 3 years... BTW my project would be to EV swap a DeLorean. It's a great chassis, with the suspension designed by Colin Chapman. The body is also fantastic, designed by Giugaro. No rust, my nemesis, because it's stainless. The engine was pathetic and deserves to be removed. And they can be found for reasonable prices.  <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">:)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:48 AM via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204)"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">We spoke with the people at Tesla, but they weren't interested in powering Pisces 6. </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Vance</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Michael Holt via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: psubs list <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2020 5:55 pm<br>Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Alternate propulsion idea:</span><o:p></o:p></p><div id="gmail-m_8219843926231813817gmail-m_1717548143173542838gmail-m_-9063352038866632397gmail-m_6304111203019816740gmail-m_-3544009910218129393gmail-m_-3561780152115444756yiv8896785254"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The power train from a hybrid car.  Has anyone contemplated that?  It's a neat package, well-tested and reliable.<br><br><br>Mike</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_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