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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">the line does not support the sub, it sinks to the bottom of the lake.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Hank</div><div><br></div>
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On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 4:48:16 PM MDT, hank pronk <hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">when I pull on the line, it opens a valve to let air into the mbt</div><div dir="ltr">Hank</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 2:45:33 PM MDT, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:
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<div><div id="yiv2369637458"><div><div dir="ltr">Hank,<div>How can you support the negative weight of the sub and also activate the valve for the hp Co2 with the same 1/4" line?</div><div>Rick</div></div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv2369637458gmail_quote"><div class="yiv2369637458gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 10:10 AM hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="yiv2369637458gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div>Yes the air source is a hp CO2 tank at 2000 psi<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On Jul 2, 2020, at 2:08 PM, hank pronk <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Rick. I lower the sub on a 1/4 inch poly yellow rope. That same line activates the ball valve to send air to the MBT. No regulators needed. I just send air at 2000 psi to the MBT<div>Hank<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On Jul 2, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hank, is the air source a scuba tank on the outside of the sub with an valve to the second stage port of the first stage so you would get 150 psi over bottom? and is the 1/4" line that floats and unspools freely for just the valve to the air source if you need it? and do you have a larger line that you are lowering and raising the sub with?<div>Rick</div></div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv2369637458gmail_quote"><div class="yiv2369637458gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 7:32 AM hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="yiv2369637458gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">Rick, my system uses an air supply to raise the sub. I just vent all the air with hose extensions to one location incase the waves are big. Then I lower the sub maybe 10 to 20 lbs negative on a small nylon rope (1\4 inch) The rope is on a floating spool, so it just feeds out as the sub sinks. Okay Alec, as it submerges. After one hr on the bottom, I pull on the rope, witch is connected to a spring loaded ball valve that releases air into the MBT's. The rope can only pull the valve to full open, and then it hits a stopper. If something is wrong, the rope can pull the sub up to the surface. </div><div dir="ltr">Hank</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 11:09:37 AM MDT, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="yiv2369637458gmail-m_-4988369008373972872gmail-m_-8063627220212384652gmail-m_-7063225938776520284yiv7906600567"><div><div dir="ltr">Hank<div>When you pressure tested it in the lake, did you just make it slightly negative and lower it by hand? did you have drop weights set up or a lift bag you could fill it she started taking on water and was too heavy to pull her back up by hand? </div><div>Rick</div></div><br clear="none"><div><div id="yiv2369637458gmail-m_-4988369008373972872gmail-m_-8063627220212384652gmail-m_-7063225938776520284yiv7906600567yqt67986"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 2:01 AM hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">Hi Rick,</div><div dir="ltr">I built this sub originally in 2013 and put it in storage when I bought Gamma. It was in the testing stage and had some stability issues. I stripped parts off it to use in other projects. When we decided to self isolate, I needed a project to help pass time, so I pulled it out from under the tarp and made a big modification to it, to solve the stability problem. I pressure tested it a couple weeks ago to 450 feet at a local lake. I intend to pressure test it again, but to 600 feet. It is turning out to be a very easy and cheap sub to build. In fact, I am confident I could build a new one in one month, it is that simple. Also, I am confident it can be built for under 10K.</div><div dir="ltr">Hank</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 11:55:52 AM MDT, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="yiv2369637458gmail-m_-4988369008373972872gmail-m_-8063627220212384652gmail-m_-7063225938776520284yiv7906600567gmail-m_-7172262069599332021yiv6375039971"><div><div dir="ltr">Has this one been in the water or depth tested yet? What is it's working depth? Hard to keep track as you have so many projects going on!<div>Rick</div></div><br clear="none"><div><div id="yiv2369637458gmail-m_-4988369008373972872gmail-m_-8063627220212384652gmail-m_-7063225938776520284yiv7906600567gmail-m_-7172262069599332021yiv6375039971yqt21007"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 6:29 AM T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div lang="EN-CA"><div><p><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);">Looks good, Hank. Looking forward to seeing it under water.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);">Tim<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in;"><p><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:03 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">
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