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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><div id="ydp78882884yiv6014012761yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1518556069180_4435" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">James, the pressure reducing/relieving regulator I used for pressure equalization of my thrusters until recently was the Parker - PR364-02BSS - Regulator Port size 1/4" NPT, stainless steel body. Parker has a number of PR364 regulators that show up on ebay all the time . Make sure you get the SS version. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Would be similar to this one <a shape="rect" href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/PARKER-R364-02B-1-4-MINIATURE-REGULATOR-NEW-IN-A-BOX-0-60-PSI/252360167538?hash=item3ac1d69072:g:EckAAOSwubRXFSSP" style="color: rgb(25, 106, 212); text-decoration-line: underline;" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.ebay.com/itm/PARKER-R364-02B-1-4-MINIATURE-REGULATOR-NEW-IN-A-BOX-0-60-PSI/252360167538?hash=item3ac1d69072:g:EckAAOSwubRXFSSP</a> but his one not SS.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Hugh Fulton was the the first in the Psub group to adopt this pressure compensation device for his Q-Sub.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I used this regulator quite successfully to pressure compensate my Minn Kota 101s for many years. I abandoned the regulator about 8 months ago and switch to oil pressure compensation. The reason I switched is that I did not like the amount of air it used in my HP air bank on repeated deep dives to 300 to 400 ft. I ran these with 4 psi differential positive pressure. I left the lip seals in my 101's oriented as per the original manufacturer ( oriented to withstand external pressure). I don't have enough run time on my new oil compensation method which is WD-40 with small accordion plastic bladders I got from Alec to argue which technique is better.</div><div id="ydp78882884yiv6014012761yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1518556069180_4817"><br clear="none"></div><div id="ydp78882884yiv6014012761yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1518556069180_4807">Best Regards</div><div id="ydp78882884yiv6014012761yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1518556069180_4806"><br clear="none"></div><div>Cliff</div><div id="ydp78882884yiv6014012761yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1518556069180_4561"><br clear="none" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"></div></div><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Thursday, March 26, 2020, 12:15:51 PM CDT, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp8f950866yiv5197631392"><div><div dir="ltr">Also interested in Cliff's compensator regulator that was mentioned. Any info on that.<div><br clear="none">Many thanks</div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp8f950866yiv5197631392yqt0614922258" id="ydp8f950866yiv5197631392yqt21656"><div class="ydp8f950866yiv5197631392gmail_quote"><div class="ydp8f950866yiv5197631392gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 at 17:08, James Frankland <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydp8f950866yiv5197631392gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">Hi Alan,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Im using silicone oil. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I deliberately kinked the hoses for the very reason you say. I initially used silicone hose which is much softer and flexible, but it reacted with the oil and expanded, quite a lot.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I think I might see if i can get some thinner walled tube (but not silicone) and wrap it around the motor a couple of times, to give it a bigger compensator. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Can other people confirm that a small amount of air in the tube is acceptable? I have been constantly trying to remove every bubble. If a small amount is ok, im pretty good to go.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Also I will be making some progress on my new sub pretty soon. Just getting a heavy hoist sorted, which at the moment is difficult as all the shops are shut.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Regards</div><div>James</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp8f950866yiv5197631392gmail_quote"><div class="ydp8f950866yiv5197631392gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 21:38, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydp8f950866yiv5197631392gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div><div></div><div>James,</div><div>that method with the hose wrapped around has come under criticism previously.</div><div>Fortunately you have a kink in the hose which initiates a collapse of the hose to </div><div>provide some equalisation. We calculated that the hose may take over 100psi </div><div>external pressure before it collapsed to provide equalisation. So at depth water</div><div>would push past the seals before there was any compensation.</div><div>I don't know whether you are still getting trapped air in the system coming out</div><div>or whether expansion & contraction when out of the water is sucking air in.</div><div>But for air to get in, oil would have to get out. Maybe oil expands out through the</div><div>seals when you transit & it heats up, & then causes a vacuum when you take the sub</div><div>out of the water & the motors cool down, thus sucking air in.</div><div>Perhaps you could run the motors out of the water for a while untill they feel </div><div>hot, & see if any oil comes out. Another thought is that if you are using WD40</div><div>or similar, perhaps it is pushing past the seals with the hot cold variation over</div><div>each day, & evaporating away so that there's not much evidence of a leak.</div><div>Alan</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none">On 26/03/2020, at 1:35 AM, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi All,<div>This is a really interesting topic for me. I have been meaning to ask this for a while but been a bit busy with other stuff.</div><div>I need to modify my motors again somehow. I have a simple tube coming from the top of the motor with a valve that i can shut, so i can seal the motor and close it off.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>No matter what i do, i always seem to end up with a small amount of air in the tube.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>This picture is the only one i can find.</div><div><br clear="none">The tube comes out the top, around to a valve secured underneath. Thats it. There is no hole on the underside any more.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I fill it, it seems fine. The next day there are a few bubbles, which i would expect from just sticking to things. So i clear that. However, after either a dive or some time, a small amount of air gets in the tube.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>There appears to be no leaks and no seawater in the motor.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>What am i doing wrong? Its such a nuisance and worry to me.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I have heard that some people put the prop shaft seals in backwards? I didnt do that, they are just standard.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I suspect im getting pressure differences and its sucking air past the seal. Maybe some sort of 5 psi pressure system is required, as per cliffs method? Any more info on that?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Thanks, </div><div>James</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div><image.png><br clear="none"></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp8f950866yiv5197631392gmail_quote"><div class="ydp8f950866yiv5197631392gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 08:43, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydp8f950866yiv5197631392gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div><div></div><div>Brian,</div><div>not sure of your depth but if you are going to 300ft, the air will be compressed to</div><div>1/12th the volume, so the oil overflow reservoir is going to be problematic because</div><div>It's large volume could mean the seawater would come a long way up the tube on</div><div>the seaward side. Also using it as an overflow would create the problem of "how do </div><div>I get the oil back in the motor" & " how do I monitor it".</div><div>I have had rubber perish in WD40 so I would watch that if you are considering using</div><div>a rubber compensator.</div><div>Have a look at the PDF I referenced as that has several options.</div><div>Alan</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none">On 25/03/2020, at 5:40 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><font size="2" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Alan, </font><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"> So do you see any issues with the way I have my compensator set up? I've been trying to see a scenario where it wouldn't work, but I don't see one. One reason I like it is because there in no over or under pressure in the system.</font></font></div><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><br clear="none"></font></font></div><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Brian</font></font></div><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><br clear="none"></font></font></div><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"> </font><br clear="none"></font><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">--- <a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">From: Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] motor oil compensator</span><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 17:28:21 +1300</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"></div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">Brian,</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">I wouldn't read a lot in to that experiment as far as heating goes, as when</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">the motor is under load it will be drawing a lot more amps & develop a</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">lot more heat.</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">But people run the Minnkotas with air compensation & get away with it.</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">Alan</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><br clear="none">On 25/03/2020, at 2:09 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"> Alan, </font></font><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"> In my case my motor pod contains about 8 gallons of WD40 . I ran the motors the other day , all day long for about 10 hours straight . The temp outside was around 60 F so it sort of simulated our water temperature here. I was surprised to discover that the expansion of the oil was not as much as I thought it would be , it was about 1/2 gallon. It reached a point where it stopped expanding, so I guess it reached a point of equilibrium with respect to the temperature. One problem I have is in the summer the oil actually expands more than when the motor is running just sitting there heating up from the ambient temperature. I think in the summer I'm going to disconnect the hose and put it into a bucket when sitting. </font></font></div><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><br clear="none"></font></font></div><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Brian</font></font></div><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><br clear="none"></font></font></div><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"> </font></font><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">--- <a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">From: Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] motor oil compensator</span><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 13:25:53 +1300</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"></div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">Brian,</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">there is this military de-classified 1972 document on pressure compensating.</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><a shape="rect" href="https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/894795.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/894795.pdf</a></div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">I printed it out & had it bound.</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">I found that the rotation of the motor was throwing the oil out of the motor</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">housing & up in to the compensating tube. If you dived there would be added</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">pressure to keep the oil in the motor housing, but this wouldn't happen transiting</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">on the surface. As the oil also keeps the Motor cool, there may be a danger of</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">the motor overheating in this instance.</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">As you will find in the linked manual, a minimum of 5psi over pressure is the norm.</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">I am going to use the same system as Cliff, with the relieving regulator dialled</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">up to 5psi to give an overpressure. However my system has oil in it so I get it's </div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">cooling advantages & eliminate large air volume changes.</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">Alan</div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><br clear="none">On 25/03/2020, at 11:19 AM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><font size="2">Seawater gets compressed up the hose, so never goes above the highest point of the hose. When oil heats up it spills into trap and cannot escape to the sea. </font><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font size="2">Brian</font></div><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt;">--- <a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt;">From: Øystein Skarholm via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt;">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt;">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] motor oil compensator</span><br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt;">Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 22:21:15 +0100</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div dir="ltr" style="font-size:10pt;">You should avoid contact between the seawater and the oil. The oil will contaminate quickly and it will no longer be dielectric. <div>Just the hose from the motor to the tee is enough to compensate. You do not have to have a large volume of oil. Fill the hose with oil and cap it off, done. or make a neat yet more sophisticated solution. </div><div>Make the end lid of the motor as a flange assembly and instead of a lid, use a rubber diaphragm. This will then act as a compensator. You can even install a light spring pushing down on the diaphragm if you want a slight internal overpressure. </div><div><div><image.png><br clear="none"></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div style="font-size:10pt;"><div dir="ltr">tir. 24. mar. 2020 kl. 21:28 skrev Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>>:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><font size="2">Here is a drawing for my oil compensator</font><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">
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