<DIV style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif; font-size:10pt;">Rick,      I'll have to check the brand I have on my next hourly check.  The one I have is a 48v charger which has varying degrees of charging conditions, throws a lot of charge on the batteries if they are completely discharged then gradually backs off as they become fully charged.  <DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>I'm at hour 5 now and the voltage has dropped to 45.5 volts  ,  my battery storage indicator seems to be working , it is at about 60% now.   as the voltage drops the corresponding wattage goes down so I increased the throttle a bit to get back up to 1000 watts,  this would simulate a constant speed through the water, given the wattage is indicative of the power output.  </DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Brian C</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>  <BR><BR>--- personal_submersibles@psubs.org wrote:<BR><BR>From: Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)<BR>Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 18:41:46 -1000<BR><BR><DIV dir="ltr">I was thinking of purchasing my 12v and 36 volt battery chargers and was wondering what would be recommended?<DIV>Rick</DIV></DIV><BR><DIV><DIV dir="ltr">On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 5:58 PM Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>> wrote:<BR></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><DIV style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><FONT size="2">It's been 4 hours now and my voltage is at 46.44 volts</FONT><DIV><FONT size="2"><BR></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size="2">Brian</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size="2"><BR></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size="2"><BR></FONT><BR><SPAN style="font-size:10pt">--- <A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A> wrote:</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN style="font-size:10pt">From: Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>></SPAN><BR><SPAN style="font-size:10pt">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>></SPAN><BR><SPAN style="font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)</SPAN><BR><SPAN style="font-size:10pt">Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 15:48:43 +1300</SPAN><BR><BR><DIV style="font-size:10pt"><SPAN></SPAN></DIV><DIV style="font-size:10pt"><DIV></DIV><DIV>Hi Brian,</DIV><DIV>3hp is 2,200W, so 500W with no load seems excessively high.</DIV><DIV>Just measured mine & it's .9Amps (900mAh) for a 1500W compensated motor running in a 5cst silicone oil. Running off 48V also. So under 49W.</DIV><DIV>I think you have a large prop on your motors. I just saw your gearing ratio, but the</DIV><DIV>loss shouldn't be that much.</DIV><DIV>I would test them individually in case one is at fault.</DIV><DIV>Cheers Alan</DIV><DIV><BR>On 8/03/2020, at 2:54 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><DIV style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><FONT size="2"><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">Alan,             They are 3 hp golf cart motors, true there is no load but If I kept the same amp draw while actually at sea then it seems it would be equivalent.     Under actual conditions it would probably be going very slowly while drawing 21 amps ( 10.5 amps per motor ) .  </FONT></FONT><DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><BR></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">Brian</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><BR></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><BR></FONT><BR><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">--- <A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A> wrote:</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">From: Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>></SPAN><BR><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>></SPAN><BR><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)</SPAN><BR><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 14:21:54 +1300</SPAN><BR><BR><DIV style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"></DIV><DIV style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Brian,</DIV><DIV style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">I take it that there is no load on the motor!</DIV><DIV style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">That seems a high power consumption, 500 Watts per motor.</DIV><DIV style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Have you got the specs for those motors? Have you checked them individually?</DIV><DIV style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Alan</DIV><DIV style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><BR>On 8/03/2020, at 1:26 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><DIV><DIV style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><FONT size="2"><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">There are some times when 110 vac could be needed, like computer stuff.   Just a thought, we can have an open mind on the subject !  </FONT></FONT><DIV><FONT size="2"><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size="2"><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size="2"><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">  Right now I'm running my motors to see how long they'll go.  It's a kind of cool rainy day so the temperature is close to what the ocean would be .   I've got the oil expansion tube going into a bucket so I can get an idea how large of a reservoir I will need to take care of the expansion.  I think I'm going to opt for just a reservoir on the motor side and then I'm running a hose up high and then back down to take care of the compression up the tube for when I submerge.  Since most of the compression of air will occur in the first 30' the water should never get high enough ( in the tube) to go over the hump and get</FONT></FONT><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"> into the motor compartment.   So the whole system will be open .    I'm also monitoring Voltage ,  Amp draw, and ,  Watts    </SPAN><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"> 48 volts       21 amps       1030  watts    - two motors running  .</SPAN></DIV><DIV><FONT size="2"><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size="2"><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif">  </FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><BR></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">Brian</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">    </FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"><BR></FONT><BR><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">--- <A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A> wrote:</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>></SPAN><BR><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">To: Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>></SPAN><BR><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)</SPAN><BR><SPAN style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 00:06:47 +0000 (UTC)</SPAN><BR><BR><DIV style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><DIV></DIV>
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