<div dir="ltr">Hi everyone,<br><div><br></div><div>Regarding the Innerspace expedition, we are in the early planning stages and don't have a date yet but should soon. It's an exploration of Sebago Lake in Maine, in collaboration with St Joseph's College which is local. We have a conference call scheduled for this coming Tuesday at which we expect to receive formally documented science objectives, and next up in the planning process will be to pick dates. The subs in attendance are planned to be Harold and Shackleton (i.e. Brian Hughes and myself). I have a fairly complicated year as I am also on the Pisces team and if Pisces dates change, my availability changes too. But that is why we have two subs planned. As the first step in getting ready, we are also planning two or three days of sea trials and depth tests early in the season. This will be the week of May 15th at Summersville Lake in WV and we plan to have three subs there - the above two plus Steve McQueen's K250 going in the water for the first time. The Summersville location probably doesn't lend itself for presentations, and we're going to have a really crammed agenda trying to depth test three subs in a couple of days. Sebago Lake is probably good for that and we could add a day or two of presentations to the schedule. That said, it's always been a good idea to have a PSUBS member who is local take the lead organizing conventions. Also I know from the past two Innerspace trips that the sub owners will be utterly tied up with sub logistics, field repairs, etc. and trying to have them organize or run a convention on the side doesn't seem like a wise choice. Bottom line... I would suggest that those wanting to see subs dive come join us in Maine, but if it were me I'd organize a separate presentation-style convention. I agree there have been a lot of developments that would make for good presentations.</div><div><br></div><div>I nominate Brian to organize a presentation convention in Annapolis. He'd be good at it. It's sort of half way between those coming from North or South. Between Mark, Brian, and myself we have four or five subs for people to look at, and can even dive a bit at Mark's even though it isn't wonderful clear water. That's right Brian, I just volunteered you!!!</div><div><br></div><div>:)</div><div><br></div><div>Alec</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 12:15 PM Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">I kind of hate to think of putting it off another year. There are a number of options, one being we move the diving location this year to a more central point in the country. Another being that we combine it with the Maine expedition, if that expedition actually occurs. I haven't seen any update on it, or potential dates. But our convention date is flexible. And a third option is to just have technical presentations. Technical conventions were all we had for years and seemed to work ok. One benefit with them is that they can just be a weekend event instead of a week-long event. As much as I enjoy the diving part of a convention, they are much more difficult to plan and execute, and it's also difficult to incorporate everyone into the actual dive unless it is close to shore.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">So, pros/cons with both. I think Carsten has the right idea, technical presentations for all but limit the diving to a core group of people. In any event, I would want you (Cliff) and Hank as primary presenters for past expeditions. David Colombo, Alec, Brian, Hank and myself for project presenters. And that's not to exclude anyone else, I just don't know everyone that is working on a project that might be able to share their story. Maybe Scott, Steve or Vance could tell us about their experience with the Pisces project. It seems like we're at a point where there is a lot of information to share and if we had a technical only convention it could work well.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cliff, Hank, David, Alec, Brian, Scott, Steve, Vance,...anyone else that might want to share a topic, what's your availability for May, June, July, Sept, Oct? What about setting a recurring date for our US Psubs conventions so we always know when they will occur and can plan other events around it.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Jon</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div><br></div>
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px">Jon, with a 2020 Islamorada event, it would make three psub events this year: 1) 2020 Islamorda Psub convention, 2) Rostock Germany SubSeaSail European PSub event and 3) probably an InnerspaceScience.org expedition in Maine. Granted not all will attend all three events but some like me might want to. I am not sure how many would come to PSub convention with no diving event around a submersible. As an alternative, I would like to see us put off the Islamorada convention into 2021. By that time the Suhr's hopefully would be in a position to be able let us use there home in <span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px">Islamorada </span></span> as base station, you should be at a point with your new boat to bring it for sea trials and we could also include the technical presentations you mention. <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px">Just a thought.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Cliff</div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br clear="none"></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br clear="none"></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px">Cliff<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><br clear="none"></div>
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<div dir="ltr">We can build it sufficiently around the European event, that's not an issue. Maybe end of June? Or October.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Jon</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Saturday, February 15, 2020, 08:10:01 PM EST, Steve McQueen via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:
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<p dir="ltr">A non-diving convention (tech presentations & social activities) would still have value in my opinion. Seems like there have been several diving opportunities in the past few years but not so much on the technical presentation front. </p>
<p dir="ltr">I am interested in attending. Let me know how I can assist.</p>
<p dir="ltr">also, I (maybe others?) am planning on attending the European convention this year so it would be nice if the dates didn't conflict.</p>
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<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On February 15, 2020, at 7:46 PM, Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div id="gmail-m_8255199386062575380ydp8ac2bfa3yiv3539272423ydp176787e4yiv8016246812ydpf1424b01yiv2031273379yqt02009"><div><div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">Yes, we should have one this year.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">This has been on my mind so a good nudge to get us discussing it. Last summer Cliff and I had started talking about another convention in the Keys. With two expeditions completed and a number of projects coming to term there is a lot of information we can sure. However, we are highly dependent upon the Suhrs for diving purposes in the Keys and were notified in October that unforeseen circumstances would prevent them from being in the Keys for most of the year.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">We could have a non-diving convention with static displays here in the Keys (or somewhere else), or try to set up a diving convention at another location. For sure, we have plenty of material for at least one day of technical presentations.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Suggestions?</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Jon</div></div></div></div></div><div id="gmail-m_8255199386062575380ydp8ac2bfa3yiv3539272423ydp176787e4yiv8016246812ydpf1424b01yqt60436">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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