<div dir="ltr">To start off with the price. for the X150 and X010 package, I paid 7500USD....approx. At first, the system had lots of bugs and issues. I was on their back for a year. The position would jump all over the place due to backscatter signals, especially on the flat sandy seabed and still surface. With new software and firmware, I can now see the rov position directly on google earth map or esri maps. The position is stable and the system seems to be operating well. However, both these systems are intended to be the sub, rov or divers position on the surface. You will not be able to see your position from within the sub. BUT, it may be possible to use 2 of X150 as they are both transponders/transducers to be able to get the relative position from the X150 on the sub onto a laptop onboard the sub. If they have a software to do so is a different question....who knows.<div>FAnother option - this type of equipment is better suited <a href="https://www.blueprintsubsea.com/pages/product.php?PN=BP01068">https://www.blueprintsubsea.com/pages/product.php?PN=BP01068</a> I have very little knowledge about it. </div></div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br> <table style="border-top:1px solid #d3d4de">
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<a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" height="1"></a></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">ons. 4. sep. 2019 kl. 18:30 skrev Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail-m_-2064152127877870778ydp74aade06yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">This Blueprint Subsea system looks promising. Can you give some of your experience with the kit? Also which transponders are you using and what was your cost? Are the range numbers given at the web site in agreement with your experience.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cliff</div><div><br></div>
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On Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 09:26:15 AM CDT, Øystein Skarholm via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="gmail-m_-2064152127877870778ydp1e6c0f22yiv5953946763"><div><div dir="ltr">Check this out for navigation. I myself use the one from Blueprint subsea. <div><br clear="none"></div><div><a shape="rect" href="https://www.blueprintsubsea.com/seatrac/index.php" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">USBL Blueprint Subsea</a><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><a shape="rect" href="https://bluerobotics.com/product-category/sensors-sonars-cameras/underwater-gps/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Underwater GPS</a></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-2064152127877870778ydp1e6c0f22yiv5953946763DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br clear="none"> <table style="border-top:1px solid rgb(211,212,222)"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="width:55px;padding-top:18px"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><img src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png" alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; min-height: 29px;"></a></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="width:470px;padding-top:17px;color:rgb(65,66,78);font-size:13px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:18px">Virusfri. <a shape="rect" href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" style="color:rgb(68,83,234)" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.avg.com</a> </td></tr></tbody></table>
<a shape="rect" href="#m_-2064152127877870778_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" rel="nofollow"></a></div><br clear="none"><div class="gmail-m_-2064152127877870778ydp1e6c0f22yiv5953946763gmail_quote"><div class="gmail-m_-2064152127877870778ydp1e6c0f22yiv5953946763gmail_attr" dir="ltr">ons. 4. sep. 2019 kl. 15:22 skrev Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>>:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="gmail-m_-2064152127877870778ydp1e6c0f22yiv5953946763gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail-m_-2064152127877870778ydp1e6c0f22yiv5953946763yqt6861800145" id="gmail-m_-2064152127877870778ydp1e6c0f22yiv5953946763yqt66306"><div>We need a PSub wis kid to make a DIY version of this kit.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Cliff <br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"><div dir="ltr" id="gmail-m_-2064152127877870778ydp1e6c0f22yiv5953946763gmail-m_-2547254541250032801AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none">On Sep 4, 2019, at 12:12 AM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div>Cliff,</div><div>Just got a price on the Subsonus you referenced. Part of the reply is below...</div><div><div><span> "A kit for the vessel (item code: <span class="gmail-m_-2064152127877870778ydp1e6c0f22yiv5953946763gmail-m_-2547254541250032801prokeys-snippet-text">SUBSONUS-SURFACE-KIT), includes the <span class="gmail-m_-2064152127877870778ydp1e6c0f22yiv5953946763gmail-m_-2547254541250032801prokeys-snippet-text">Subsonus USBL, pole mounting bracket, a <span class="gmail-m_-2064152127877870778ydp1e6c0f22yiv5953946763gmail-m_-2547254541250032801prokeys-snippet-text">GNSS Compass, <span class="gmail-m_-2064152127877870778ydp1e6c0f22yiv5953946763gmail-m_-2547254541250032801prokeys-snippet-text">PoE-Injectors and cables.</span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span>Provide a boat, a pole, power and a network and you'll have yourself a tracking solution that you could mobilise immediately.</span></div><div><span>This surface kit is US$22,800."</span></div></div><div><span>Alan</span></div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none">On 1/09/2019, at 1:29 AM, Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="gmail-m_-2064152127877870778ydp1e6c0f22yiv5953946763gmail-m_-2547254541250032801ydp2e3398a7yahoo-style-wrap"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">Alan, an alternative would be to order an off-the-shelf USBL <span><a shape="rect" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_baseline_acoustic_positioning_system" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_baseline_acoustic_positioning_system</a> </span>system like <span><a shape="rect" class="gmail-m_-2064152127877870778ydp1e6c0f22yiv5953946763gmail-m_-2547254541250032801enhancr_card_7801585810" href="https://www.advancednavigation.com/product/subsonus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Subsonus | Advanced Navigation</a></span><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Saturday, August 31, 2019, 05:54:47 AM CDT, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">I was looking at GPS receivers for my sub, mainly for estimating my<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">surface speed & determining my range based on my power consumption.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">But it occurred to me that you could make a similar system to GPS for<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">underwater navigation.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Have 4 buoys placed around your intended dive location that have GPS<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">receivers & ultrasonic transmitters. With a bit of electronics the submarine <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">could locate itself with trilateration ( as in GPS) in relation to the 4 bouys.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">The 4 buoys in turn are locating their position off satellites & relaying this<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">information via the ultrasonic transmitters to the sub. This way the pilot<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">could use charts to plot where they were & where they had been. <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">It wouldn't matter too much if the buoys were blown about or if they moved <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">in the current as they would update their position.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">It may be helpful for grid searching.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">If you wanted to get more serious you could put small motors on the buoys<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">that automatically held them in position as Minnkota are now doing with<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">their radio controlled motor.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Or is this already done?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Alan<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">You bolt this unit to the top of your sub and drop the corresponding tender transponder into the water and the sub (as well as the tender) knows its submerged GPS location real time. Tender knows it's GPS location and the surface unit calculates the relative location of the sub then sends the calculated GPS location back to the sub real time. There are a number of these USBL systems. For the Psub community, the trick would be to standardize on one that does not cost an arm and a leg.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Cliff</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div></div>
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