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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Oh dear. Naughty Cliff. Methinks deliberately lighting a fire under me to get it finished. Again he is always right.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I had engaged ABS consultant but he was not the right guy. Wanting to milk me. Also he fell out with some others he consulted for. Had the PVHO build supervised and tested with SGS 3<sup>rd</sup> party witnessing. All the vessels designed to ASME. Design FEA done to ABS compliance by same guy who did Paul Collins’ sub. Windows stamped Lloyds from UK. This is prototype, so not certified but if I ever get a sale then I would get full certification. I also visited and had GL on board at the design phase. I have a test chamber good for 400 psi and could squeeze out 1000 ft. I tested at 520 ft for 400 ft working. ABS wanted dual cert for sub and high speed surface craft. GL one cert for both. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The biggest thing I learnt was that for certification it is much easier to get OTS components already certified rather than having unique designs. I would have an issue with arguing for sitting on the batteries even though they are LiFePO4 ones. Lloyds will no longer do this type of thing and only handle navy and oil field work. ABS are still the best bet for commercial but Swiss GL through Carsten Standfuss is the most cost effective. Quotes for 3<sup>rd</sup> party start at 200k . Any queries at $400 / hr. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Toughest project I have done. Would have been a lot smarter if I had consulted Cliff and Vance. Hugh<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Colombo via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 23 August 2019 2:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Q-Sub<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hugh, WOW!!! <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This sub is amazing, complex and the cockpit area is really cool. Have you contracted with either agency to certify this unit, or are you building to their specs and will certify prior to production models. Id be curious as the cost they are estimating for your certification.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Best Regards,<br>David Colombo<br><img width=200 height=110 id="_x0000_i1025" src="http://static.squarespace.com/static/533310a9e4b0fba62008a464/t/5339c1f2e4b041bac4e25d1b/1396294132055/?format=500w"><br>804 College Ave<br>Santa Rosa, CA. 95404<br>(707) 536-1424<br><a href="http://www.SeaQuestor.com" target="_blank">www.SeaQuestor.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 6:54 AM Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Better link on Q-Sub </span><a href="https://www.discountfishingsupplies.co.nz/site/colinkerr/Q-SUB.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.discountfishingsupplies.co.nz/site/colinkerr/Q-SUB.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cliff<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yahoo_quoted_7249787830"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 06:39:01 PM CDT, Hugh Fulton via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="gmail-m_-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361"><div><div><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Cliff,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>You are so organised and think of everything.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>I need you down here to push me along and organise things and add your take on what needs to be changed. Finally starting again on the batteries BMS. Years are passing me by. Cheers, Hugh </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="gmail-m_-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361yqt50509"><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361msonormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 22 August 2019 7:58 AM<br><b>To:</b> T Novak via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] weights</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>On the R300 we also carry a bathroom scale and try to measure operator at time of dive. On touchscreen, operator enters this weight. The PLC calculates the ballast needed and adjust the longitudinal position of a 100 lb trim weight hydraulically so that when the boat is flooded , the boat will be approximately trim. This is necessary as pilot is forward of the boat CG. I have ballast weights that are color coded and are designed to sit at the longitudinal CG of the boat. Data logger records the operator weight. Predive checklist checks that ballast has been added.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Cliff<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361ydp2702e9f4yahoo_quoted_7320261987"><div><div><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 12:22:09 PM CDT, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="gmail-m_-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361ydp2702e9f4yiv3313474340"><div><div><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361ydp2702e9f4yiv3313474340msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>From my weight and balance experience flying Air Cadets we always weigh the individuals as they stand all up, including any backpacks, cameras, and water bottles. Most people only have a vague idea how much they weigh, and the reality is that their weight changes daily, throughout the day, and depending on what they are wearing and carrying. During the PLRP I noticed that Nuytco had a bathroom scale on the crane barge and the DW2000 pilots were weighed each time they got into the sub. External weights were then added or removed as necessary.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361ydp2702e9f4yiv3313474340msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="gmail-m_-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361ydp2702e9f4yiv3313474340yqt34088"><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361ydp2702e9f4yiv3313474340msonormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> Personal_Submersibles <a href="mailto:[mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org]" target="_blank">[mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 21, 2019 7:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] weights</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361ydp2702e9f4yiv3313474340msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361ydp2702e9f4yiv3313474340msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361ydp2702e9f4yiv3313474340msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>When David and I were swapping out passengers in Gamma, the weights were getting off. It is difficult to make quick weight changes. David and I both came to the conclusion that a weight chart is in order with well marked weights. So when your passenger is ready, just look up their weight on the chart and cross reference the required weight in the sub. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361ydp2702e9f4yiv3313474340msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Hank<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361ydp2702e9f4yqt65167"><p class=gmail-m-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yiv0737693361msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-1975676729174224367ydp94ee20f1yqt07574"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>