<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>Hugh,</div><div>was hoping you were out there.</div><div>Couldn't find your snorkel valve on your site, how do I find it thanks &</div><div>what price? ( <a href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a> )</div><div>Where would I find the Kittredge design?</div><div>Yes I would have to come up with a solution for 500psi but that was a starter.</div><div>What do you think about my idea of using a 3 part ball valve & replacing the</div><div>ball. It could be an inexpensive option if I bought an appropriate replacement</div><div>hollow ball & pressure tested it. </div><div>Of course there is a back up ball valve inside the hull that is also closed when</div><div>diving so a failure of the snorkel valve would result in a bit of water coming</div><div>In to the hull when I opened the hull stop valve on surfacing.</div><div>Thanks Alan</div><div><br></div><div><br>On 5/04/2019, at 10:57 AM, Hugh Fulton via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Alan, that is not rated for a depth. Kittredge already has a design. Mine is a variation of his but 2”. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There are no pressure ratings on the balls. Hugh<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Personal_Submersibles [<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 4 April 2019 8:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] pulled thread line - submarine AC and heat<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Ok, while you guys have been sleeping I have been googling for a <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">suitable snorkel valve, & come up with this Wagner item below.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I searched under "inverted vent check valve". I am not sure of the price of<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">the below item. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">If anyone knows of a good option I would be interested.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Maybe there is a suitable valve that can be hacked! Ie. Use the valve seat<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">& buy a hollow stainless ball.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Alan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://wagerusa.com/pages/marine/1700series.html">https://wagerusa.com/pages/marine/1700series.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><image001.png><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 4/04/2019, at 6:03 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Am thinking about having 2 snorkel valves for cooling in transit. <br>One for air in & one for air out, with a descent blower circulating the air.<br>Any thoughts on how effective it would be? <br>Hugh Fulton had a snorkel valve design on his Q-sub site but can't find it.<br>Assume you would need a hollow ball that floats up & seals the inlet &<br>an additional valve inside the hull for redundancy, with a blower on the designated<br>Inlet.<br>Alan<br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">On 4/04/2019, at 5:42 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Hello Marc,<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">haven't heard from you for a while.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">What calculation was off?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Peltiers are 1/4 as efficient as conventional AC.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Average car AC system uses 4hp which is 2,980W.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">4 X 2980 = 11,920.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Wish it was off as I have bought 20 so far & I am going to need a lot of<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">batteries to keep up with a cars AC system.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">I am starting to talk myself out of relying on them solely & in to a good snorkel <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">system that I could suck air through while transiting on the surface.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Alan<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">On 4/04/2019, at 4:38 PM, Marc de Piolenc via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Pretty sure your calculations are off.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Did some work with Peltier effect coolers a few years back.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Search for information on this technology as applied in the military. There are many applications for which vapor-compression refrigeration is not possible or too dangerous.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Marc<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">On 03/04/2019 9:18 AM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">I don't know how many peltiers. If you based your air conditioning system<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">on a car which uses 4 hp or 2,980 Watts & factored in that peltiers are 1/4<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">as efficient as conventional air conditioning then you would need 11,920 W<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">to get the equivalent cooling! And then it's an unknown as the peltiers are<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">more efficient when there is a larger temperature differential between sides.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">On 3/04/2019, at 12:15 AM, Brian Hughes via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Alan,<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">How many peltier chips do you think you'll use? Or need? I was kinda planning the same idea, but was trying Kydex. I made a cover with a thin sheet of clear plastic, but I wondered about durability. Hadn't thought fiberglass. Doh. The real reason is I picked up for free a vacuum thermomolding machine and needed an excuse to play.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">As per attachment I was thinking magnets, the chrome covered ones you can get a home depot. Attach where needed. Spread heat transfer paste on the surface, etc. How will you attach yours? 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