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<div>Alan,</div><div>The valves are just to help avoid the wierd lean that happens inconsistently. The original manual vent valves will still be in place. I had the valves on before I figured out I needed down spouts on the MBT's. The sub would surface and have a terrible lean to it, so I installed the valves so I could correct it. The down spouts worked perfect so I removed the valves. The next issue I had was the sub would pitch back suddenly without warning, while I was venting them to sink.. I cut the MBT's in half and installed a baffle, and that fixed that problem perfectly. I think the baffle may be causing the tanks to vent unevenly, or the tanks are a bit to heavy for the balance. Whatever the problem is, the valves will correct it. It is not really a problem, just annoying.</div><div>Hank</div>
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On Wednesday, July 25, 2018, 1:31:47 AM MDT, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:
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<div><div id="yiv8823791451"><div><div>Hank,</div><div id="yiv8823791451AppleMailSignature">yes mad! I'll send you over the some control electronics once I've</div><div id="yiv8823791451AppleMailSignature">made mine up.</div><div id="yiv8823791451AppleMailSignature">Keep it in mind that those solenoids may require pressure to assist opening</div><div id="yiv8823791451AppleMailSignature">in case the last bit of air isn't coming out.</div><div id="yiv8823791451AppleMailSignature">Alan<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div class="yiv8823791451yqt1705362345" id="yiv8823791451yqt73796"><div><br clear="none">On 25/07/2018, at 7:15 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
<div>Alan,</div><div>I have used these solenoid valves on Gamma already and they don't need anything to work. I just thread them on and connect power and its done.</div><div>Hank</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Oh ya for sure, an electronic board in Gamma on purpose,,, are you mad!</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 7:44:45 PM MDT, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="yiv8823791451"><div><div><span></span></div><div></div></div><div><div>Hank,</div><div>they are pretty similar to what I was using except I had to buy 24V.</div><div>The 12V were not direct acting, they needed some pressure in the</div><div>system to open. You probably already know this but mentioning it just</div><div>in case. You won't have enough pressure in your ballast system for them </div><div>to operate if they aren't direct acting. There is some other alternative </div><div>terminologies for them that I have forgotten.</div><div>I know you will be excited about this, but you can buy a cheap piece</div><div>of electronics that they use on quad copters with a gyro on it. Hook</div><div>it up to an arduino board, with relays from it controlling your solenoids.</div><div>Write a bit of code & at the flick of a switch it could automatically control</div><div>the ballast valves so you descend level. ( I am going to do this)</div><div>Alan</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>Sent from my iPad</div></div><div class="yiv8823791451yqt1681486995" id="yiv8823791451yqt62674"><div><br clear="none">On 25/07/2018, at 12:55 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
<div>Alan,</div><div>I am using 12v valves from air suspension systems. They are cheap, well free in my case and they work great. I will use them un-modified to get me through the dive season. I plan to mount them in oil filled housings over the winter, since I need them for E3000 as well.</div><div>Hank</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 6:31:55 PM MDT, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="yiv8823791451"><div><div>Hank, ( genius)</div><div id="yiv8823791451AppleMailSignature">what sought of solenoid valves are you going to use?</div><div id="yiv8823791451AppleMailSignature">They are great on my sub, all the buttons on one small controller, but</div><div id="yiv8823791451AppleMailSignature">I aren't happy with my modified solenoids as they are a bit vulnerable</div><div id="yiv8823791451AppleMailSignature">to corrosion.</div><div id="yiv8823791451AppleMailSignature">Have done some drawings of a solenoid valve based on a pneumatically</div><div id="yiv8823791451AppleMailSignature">operated top hat valve.</div><div id="yiv8823791451AppleMailSignature">Alan</div><div id="yiv8823791451AppleMailSignature"> </div><div id="yiv8823791451AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv8823791451AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div class="yiv8823791451yqt3846925780" id="yiv8823791451yqt09924"><div><br clear="none">On 25/07/2018, at 12:04 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div>I am really tired of Gamma doing this wierd lean when I sink, it is not consistent. My next project is to add solenoid vent valves to cure this problem. This will be a real easy job and quick to install. Gamma will be out of Quarantine in a week so I need to have these things done. I am trying to get permission to dive in Lake Louise in the Banff National Park. </div><div>Hank</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"></div></div></div></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br clear="none"><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br clear="none"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br clear="none"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><br clear="none"></div></blockquote></div></div><div class="yiv8823791451yqt3846925780" id="yiv8823791451yqt18842">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div></div>
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