<div dir="ltr">Hi Alan,<div><br></div><div>Did you buy just a 7,000lm array and put them in a housing or did they already come in a housing and you filled them like Hank did? Not sure what a driver is either?? Is it a PWM that acts like a driver and a dimmer as well? Do you have any pictures on your projects and photos page of this I can look at and could you send me the particulars offline on where you bought the drivers and arrays? and Cliff, please send me what you have as well.</div><div>Mahalo!</div><div><a href="mailto:satwelder@gmail.com">satwelder@gmail.com</a></div><div>Thanks</div><div>Rick</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Rick,</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">I have built my led 7000lm 36V lights & are going to use 2 out front.</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">I have used them on a boat & in the bush & don't consider them an </div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">overkill. I think with the clear water in Hawaii you would want more</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">lumens as there will be a further distance that you can see night diving.</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">I have dimmers on mine for low visibility diving, as the back scatter from</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">the muck in the water will be blinding.</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">Led's need a driver to give them constant current & of lesser importance</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">constant voltage. They are reasonably voltage tolerant as long as the current </div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">is controlled. I mistakenly had a 36V led running off 80V. </div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">You can build your own but for me it was a lot of mucking about designing,</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">sourcing lenses from China etc. I had my led driver designed & made</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">specifically for me by a Chinese firm. I am not happy with aspects of the</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">design as there is a certain part that needs heat sinking & default mode</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">is on if the wiring comes apart. So will be re-ordering an updated driver</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">some time in the future.</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">You can find suitable buck boost drivers on ebay as Alec did, but not with</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">dimming.</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">They don't get too hot if you run them in water & heat sink them to a base.</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">The easiest idea, as Hank says is to find a suitable off the shelf light that</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">you can oil compensate. The drivers however have electrolytic capacitors</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">that are vulnerable to pressure, so if the driver is in the light unit it could</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">fail under pressure if compensated.</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">I have subjected an led on it's own to 2000psi & it survived.</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">Most of the high power leds are around 36V.</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">Let me know if I can help.</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">Emile sells an led light!</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature">Cheers Alan</div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_-6189407242363838941AppleMailSignature"><br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On 2/02/2018, at 10:33 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.<wbr>org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
<div>Rick,</div><div>You can keep it real simple and just buy water proof lights (LED) and oil fill them. Just inspect the light to make sure you can drill and put a filler plug in. I have great luck with a 24,000 lumen light bar. I am actually buying a clear acrylic cylinder to put my light into. Alec has had luck with this also, maybe he can suggest the particular light to use.</div><div>Hank</div><div><br></div>
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