<div dir="auto">I have a suspicion that the aluminum would need anodized before gluing. Anodizing helps paint to stick to aluminum, so I imagine it would help glue to stick. <div dir="auto"><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">River J Dolfi<br><a href="mailto:Rdolfi7@gmail.com">Rdolfi7@gmail.com</a> <br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 22, 2017 8:01 PM, "via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Personal_Submersibles mailing list submissions to<br>
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Germany?s Entire Submarine Fleet Is Out of Commission<br>
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Das boot ist kaputt: German navy has zero working subs<br>
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There is at least one U-Boot operational in Germany - smile..<br>
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Das boot ist kaputt: German navy has zero working subs<br>
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Hi All,I have an idea that requires glueing aluminum plates together. ?Has anyone tried this? ?any success?Hank<br>
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Lotus Cars famously have done that, introducing bonded aluminum chassis<br>
with the Elise and continuing it on subsequent models. The reason is that<br>
welding weakens the material, so if it were welded they would need to<br>
increase the amount of material and it would eat up the weight savings.<br>
Problem is, I don't know the specifics of the glue they use nor the<br>
process.<br>
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> I have an idea that requires glueing aluminum plates together. Has anyone<br>
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Alec,My research so far shows that aerospace parts are glued also. ?I am sure the Lotus folks are pretty closed lipped about how they do it. ?I will do some testing, just checking with the group to save some time and headache.What are you using for a ballast an now? ?or is it a surprise.Hank<br>
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Lotus Cars famously have done that, introducing bonded aluminum chassis with the Elise and continuing it on subsequent models. The reason is that welding weakens the material, so if it were welded they would need to increase the amount of material and it would eat up the weight savings. Problem is, I don't know the specifics of the glue they use nor the process.?<br>
Best,Alec<br>
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Hank,<br>
they glue steel laminations together in electric motor stacks so<br>
I don't see why aluminium shouldn't glue together successfully.<br>
Depending of course how you are gluing it. If you are laminating<br>
sheets together they should be pretty strong.<br>
When I was searching for a pvc glue for sealing my penetrator wires<br>
I tested a number of glues people suggested, but the glue that was<br>
used commercially on pvc boats won hands down. Worth researching<br>
well.<br>
Alan<br>
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> Alec,<br>
> My research so far shows that aerospace parts are glued also. I am sure the Lotus folks are pretty closed lipped about how they do it. I will do some testing, just checking with the group to save some time and headache.<br>
> What are you using for a ballast an now? or is it a surprise.<br>
> Hank<br>
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> On Friday, December 22, 2017, 5:29:20 PM MST, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.<wbr>org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Lotus Cars famously have done that, introducing bonded aluminum chassis with the Elise and continuing it on subsequent models. The reason is that welding weakens the material, so if it were welded they would need to increase the amount of material and it would eat up the weight savings. Problem is, I don't know the specifics of the glue they use nor the process.<br>
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> Best,<br>
> Alec<br>
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> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 6:57 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.<wbr>org</a>> wrote:<br>
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