<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hank,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">that sounds really good. Am interested on how you get on with the</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">regulator & if you can adapt it. I aren't familiar with their workings!</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Cheers Alan</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"> <br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 29/11/2017, at 11:30 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
            <div>Alan,</div><div>Yes I believe the O2 regulator can vent and will be in the water.  It is a diaphragm regulator, I need to tear it down to be sure.    There are no electronics inside the actuator and no need for limit switches.  They use a unique ball bearing nut on the screw, so the motor just keeps running and the rod stops moving.  </div><div>Hank</div><div><br></div>
            
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                        On Tuesday, November 28, 2017, 3:10:24 PM MST, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:
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                    <div><div id="yiv9008642122"><div><div>Hank,</div><div id="yiv9008642122AppleMailSignature">can the acetylene regulator relieve pressure? Also don't you want a</div><div id="yiv9008642122AppleMailSignature">regulator that can be used external to the hull so you eliminate the requirement</div><div id="yiv9008642122AppleMailSignature">for any through hulls.</div><div id="yiv9008642122AppleMailSignature">You need some way of relieving pressure. If you dive to 500ft there will</div><div id="yiv9008642122AppleMailSignature">be 250psi of air in the actuator to make it ambient, but if it's not relieved it will blow</div><div id="yiv9008642122AppleMailSignature">the actuator apart before you reach the surface!</div><div id="yiv9008642122AppleMailSignature">Another thought was "are there any electronics with electrolytic capacitors in</div><div id="yiv9008642122AppleMailSignature">the actuator"? If so they may be vulnerable to pressure.</div><div id="yiv9008642122AppleMailSignature">Cheers Alan <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div class="yiv9008642122yqt3923132512" id="yiv9008642122yqt21637"><div><br clear="none">On 29/11/2017, at 10:27 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div id="yiv9008642122ydp8cce4aeayiv7940810218"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
            <div>Alan,</div><div>The wires are very well sealed and may be good the way they are.  I will pressure the actuator up and look for leaks first, but I think it is fine as is.  I will use the same system Cliff has developed if need be.  Being the cheap ass that I am, I will first have to test a theory I have.  I think there is potential to use a O2 regulator from a oxy acetylene  set up.  This regulator can take full tank pressure and can be regulated to nothing.  Plus I have one to play with.  </div><div>Hank</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
            
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                        On Tuesday, November 28, 2017, 1:27:21 PM MST, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:
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                    <div><div id="yiv9008642122ydp7a6ee3e8yiv7940810218"><div><div>Hank,</div><div id="yiv9008642122ydp7a6ee3e8yiv7940810218AppleMailSignature">You jogged my memory about the actuator being in two separate halves.</div><div id="yiv9008642122ydp7a6ee3e8yiv7940810218AppleMailSignature">How are you going to seal the cable entry? Can you drill & tap for a hose</div><div id="yiv9008642122ydp7a6ee3e8yiv7940810218AppleMailSignature">fitting & send your air & wires in through that?</div><div id="yiv9008642122ydp7a6ee3e8yiv7940810218AppleMailSignature">How are you doing the air compensation; modified second stage regulators</div><div id="yiv9008642122ydp7a6ee3e8yiv7940810218AppleMailSignature">or are you adding over pressure as with Cliff / Hugh's relieving regulator?</div><div id="yiv9008642122ydp7a6ee3e8yiv7940810218AppleMailSignature">Cheers Alan<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div class="yiv9008642122ydp7a6ee3e8yiv7940810218yqt5703599622" id="yiv9008642122ydp7a6ee3e8yiv7940810218yqt49390"><div><br clear="none">On 29/11/2017, at 8:52 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div>Alan,</div><div>I have just  disassembled my new electric actuator and am extremely please with the way it is built.  It is very light and operates smoothly.  The speed is perfect and about the same as my hydraulic  functions on my current arm.  Air compensating will be a breeze by drilling into the end cap and threading in a fitting.  A second vent hole will have to be drilled in the casing to allow air to move freely between the two halves of the actuator body.  I spent about 250 Canadian for one actuator, so a four function arm would be 1,000 dollars.  I will put it all together and see how it works but I am confident it will be a big improvement on a hydraulic set up both in cost and weight, not to mention complexity.  By adding air compensation, it gives me an excuse to air compensate my vertical thrusters.  I will mount a dedicated air tank for this set up.</div><div>Hank</div></div></div></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br clear="none"><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br clear="none"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br clear="none"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><br clear="none"></div></blockquote></div></div><div class="yiv9008642122ydp7a6ee3e8yiv7940810218yqt5703599622" id="yiv9008642122ydp7a6ee3e8yiv7940810218yqt81500">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv9008642122ydp8cce4aeayiv7940810218yahoo_quoted" id="yiv9008642122ydp8cce4aeayiv7940810218yahoo_quoted_2323757719">
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