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            <div>Alan,</div><div>Yes they are low powered, but that works for me because I am not dragging a 300 foot tether.  My tether will be 50 feet.  Do the brushless motors need a special controller?  or will a PWM controller work?  We tend to design and build things to last for an unrealistic life span.  You mentioned a while back about water bearings lasting only 2,000 hrs.  I doubt any Psub will see 2,000 hrs in its entire life time.  If an 119 dollar ROV motor lasts 100 hr, I would get several years out of it.  I am very realistic about spending versus life expectancy.</div><div>Hank</div><div><br></div>
            
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                        On Monday, November 13, 2017, 5:08:40 AM MST, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:
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                    <div><div id="yiv0349373708"><div><div>Hank,</div><div id="yiv0349373708AppleMailSignature">yes there is a lot of DIY in some of those groups.</div><div id="yiv0349373708AppleMailSignature">I did run a motor without a housing & things like the magnets got rusty.</div><div id="yiv0349373708AppleMailSignature">I don't think they would stand up to sea water & any mucky water. As</div><div id="yiv0349373708AppleMailSignature">the motors would have any thin layers of expoxy / glue sand blasted off.</div><div id="yiv0349373708AppleMailSignature">From memory the motors were reasonably low powered.</div><div id="yiv0349373708AppleMailSignature">Alan</div><div id="yiv0349373708AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div class="yiv0349373708yqt0999437567" id="yiv0349373708yqt76959"><div><br clear="none">On 14/11/2017, at 12:44 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div>Alan,</div><div>I joined an ROV group and have found some pretty interesting thruster stuff.  I think you have done the same?  You can buy thrusters that are brushless and built to run in the water with no sealing.  Sounds like they just epoxy the armature and replace the bushings with plastic. </div><div>Hank</div></div></div></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br clear="none"><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br clear="none"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br clear="none"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www..psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><br clear="none"></div></blockquote></div></div><div class="yqt0999437567" id="yqt03767">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div></div>
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