<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Greg,<br></div>I've been following OceanGate for a while. I've also been sending them applications for open engineering and technician positions for almost a year now. They own several subs:</div>Suds- a K350 with steel MBT's<br></div>Antipodes - Ex PC1501 with a 2nd dome mounted to the stern (an idea I really like)<br></div>Cyclops 1 - The "Prototype" for Cyclops 2. Don't know the entire story about that one.<br></div>Cyclops 2 - A deep diver under construction with a carbon fiber composite hull (!!!) and titanium heads<br><br></div>A polymer composite hull sounds pretty dubious to me. I just don't see the benefit. There has never been, and never will be, such a thing as a "lightweight" submarine. And from what little materials characterization work I've done, I know that he could have built a fleet of steel subs for the price of one plastic one.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 7:51 PM, via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Personal_Submersibles mailing list submissions to<br>
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Ian,I dive completely alone. ?I now tow a inflatable tender with a dive flag, so it is ver visible. ?The boaters stayed very clear today. ?Before I dive, I call my wife with a preset time to call when I return to the surface. ?If I am late she initiates an emergency plan. ?I would prefer to dive with a support crew, but ?there are no interested people. ?Hank<br>
On Sunday, September 10, 2017, 4:06:50 PM MDT, irox via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.<wbr>org</a>> wrote:<br>
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Hi Hank,<br>
thanks for the trip report. As the owner of a non-op sub I appreciate folks sharing their trip reports regardless of length. :)<br>
Are you diving with a support crew ?(surface or land) at all?<br>
If you are diving solo, are you taking any extra precautions?<br>
Thanks!? Ian.<br>
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Alan,The thermal cline is at about 40 feet and I was on the bottom at 100 feet. ?It is expected ?this time of year. ?I just figured with no rain for two months it would be better. ?At least it only costs 50 dollars for a trip with a dive, sorry Hugh ;-)Hank<br>
On Sunday, September 10, 2017, 3:46:59 PM MDT, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.<wbr>org</a>> wrote:<br>
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Hank,I haven't dived much in lakes; but a couple of years ago I was scuba diving in a?90 ft deep quarry, & hit a thermocline at about 30ft. I couldn't see my hand in?front of my face. I saw a dark line rise up my mask as I descended into it.?Some sort of algal bloom!Can it clear up deeper down if you persevere through it?Alan<br>
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Today I went to my favourite lake for a dive, I motored out to 100 feet depth and sank. ?The visibility was so bad, I could not see 2 feet. ?I couldn't even see my compass in front of the dome. ? I just surfaced and went home ;-( ?Hank<br>
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Hello all<br>
would be nice to have Stockton on this list...<br>
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 23:51:30 +0000 (UTC)<br>
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Not 100 % sure but looks like it might be the Perry PC 1501 with a lot of modifications.?<br>
Greg Cottrell<br>
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Hello allwould be nice to have Stockton on this list...<br>
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