<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Jon,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">we had a case in N.Z. where a yachty was charged & convicted of the murder of</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">two tourists who have never been found. Part of the evidence against him was that</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">he had meticulously cleaned every centimetre of the inside of his yacht to destroy</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">any DNA evidence. I suspect that this is what Peter was trying to achieve by flooding</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">his sub. This event was shortly after radio contact was made & search boats were</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">closing in on him.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">As a publicity stunt you would have to have the missing girls family & friends in on</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">it, otherwise it would be extremely cruel to them, & I can't see that happening.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"> He didn't return to port as he said, prompting the search.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"> He didn't respond to radio contact initially, saying he had a temporary radio failure.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"> He sunk his submarine after contact was made by the lighthouse & search boats</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">were nearing him.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"> And the girl hasn't been able to be contacted or seen for 4 days.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I hope if he is guilty, that he just confesses, as it would be easier on him & every</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">one else in the long run. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"> Very sad that someones talented daughter & friend has gone missing.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Alan</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 14/08/2017, at 6:38 AM, Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br>roy</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502648047571_7341"><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502648047571_7341" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502648047571_7646">I'm not sure I see any rationalization to sinking the sub to hide evidence of a crime in such shallow water that it can be easily reached and recovered. So I'm suspect of the authorities theorizing that he scuttled the vessel intentionally for nefarious reasons. However, </span>Peter did some unconventional things, shall we say, with that sub. I recall seeing a video of him swapping out a viewport while it was under water. Tw I also recall that shortly after first launch when he tried to submerge next to a pier, the aft flooded but the bow did not which caused the vessel to pitch at about a 75 degree angle with the aft end on the bottom. The conning tower was underwater and the only reason they were able to recover without flooding the sub at that time was because there was a hatch in the fore end that just barely sat above water level. It's not clear to me if Nautilus was a vessel that could be adequately operated effectively by just one person. There was a history of happenstance and perhaps it caught up with him again.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502648047571_7341" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502648047571_7341" dir="ltr">Of course none of that explains the missing reporter.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502648047571_7341" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502648047571_7341" dir="ltr">Jon</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502648047571_7341" dir="ltr"><br></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502648047571_7399"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502648047571_7360" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502648047571_7359"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502648047571_7358"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502648047571_7362"><font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502648047571_7361"> On Sunday, August 13, 2017 12:18 PM, "<a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502648047571_7357"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502648047571_7356">Hi Jon, is still a little to early - but this statement below concerns me a lot and looks not so good: <br clear="none">----<br clear="none">Kristian Isbak, who had responded to the navy’s call to help locate the ship, sailed out immediately Friday and saw Madsen standing wearing his trademark military fatigues in the submarine’s tower while it was still afloat.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">“He then climbed down inside the submarine and there was then some kind of air flow coming up and the submarine started to sink,” Isbak said. “[He] came up again and stayed in the tower until water came into it”, before swimming to a nearby boat as the submarine sank, he added.<br clear="none">----<br clear="none"><br clear="none">If this was just a stunt it will cost hunderthousands for the raising of the wreck, the investigation , the search mission with ships and helicopters etc.etc. I think we can rule this out. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">I think in the next days we will learn if the ballasttanks valves were open or close and working or not. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">vbr Carsten<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yqt6109742711" id="yqtfd26062"><br clear="none"></div></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>