<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Thanks Hugh,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">great example. I can imagine the sonic boom travelling up the valley &</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">your wife running out of the house!</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I was at Global dive recently getting them to look at the sloppy thread on</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">my pressure transmitters that fit on to my first stage regulator. I might run </div><div id="AppleMailSignature">them past you for a second opinion if that is ok.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Thanks for the offer of the 40,000 psi tester. I thought my lights might</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">implode around 2000psi but for my use they only need to stand 500psi.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Cheers Alan</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"> <br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 22/06/2017, at 11:15 AM, Hugh Fulton via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Alan,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We have a pressure tester that goes up to 40,000 psi. If you need to do a high pressure test we can assist.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We had an explosion with a 1” line that was pressurised with 3,500 psi air but there was oil left in the line after hydrotesting with oil.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The explosion blew out the side of the shed and reached an estimated 25,000 psi in the pipes which ended up looking like Spaghetti.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I had explained in detail to the guy who did the fitting of the pipes that everything had to be taken apart after the hydrotest and cleaned using solvent, then soapy water etc. as well as telling him stories of explosions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The guy, an aircraft engineer, did not do it properly and left oil in a branch tube, and I did not do a check on it. Very lucky my son did not get killed as he opened the valve doing tests. These things do not just go pop when they fail and this forum needs to hear of these dangers. The explosion was heard all round Clevedon. That was our first accident of that nature in 40 years of high pressure involvement. We only use water now for testing and make sure there is no air present. We did have another incident when we hired out our tester to another company who tested a tank to 1500 psi and the sight glass was held in with a very fine thread. The sight glass went through the roof iron along with the fittings and we never found the parts. The inspector had looked in the sight glass about 20 seconds before it let go. If you are using tube fittings always disassemble after swaging and check the ferrules are in the right way and that a proper joint has been achieved. There are some fittings which are copies and not up to the job. We had issues with “DK-lok” (from Korea) with NPT threads where the taper was ½ the required taper but the thread gauge said it was OK. They were also not full form threads. Also had some fittings called “Tubefit” from I don’t know where and they were poor copies of “Swagelok”. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We use SSP fittings out of USA which are fully interchangeable with Swagelok but in my opinion they are better quality. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Air from a scuba tank over water is OK but make sure you have a concrete wall between you and the thing to be tested. Also you should have an excess flow valve in the line. You can get those from Swagelok etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hugh<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Personal_Submersibles [<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 21 June 2017 5:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pressure Test Chamber<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Greg & Hugh,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">there was a bit of doubt in my mind about it so mentioned my<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">intended process. I have just googled accumulators in hydraulic systems<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">& the danger of high pressure air! Yikes just as well I've got you guys<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">looking out for me.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">What about air from the scuba tank pressurising water?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I can get all the air out of the test chamber apart from the air in<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">the line pressurising it!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Other than that I have done some previous tests with the water blaster<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">& may have to suffice with it's pressure!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Cheers Alan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 21/06/2017, at 3:33 PM, james cottrell via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498015667083_3735"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Alan,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498015667083_3749"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498015667083_3751"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Pressure testing that high needs to be done with liquid not gas. High pressure air is VERY dangerous. A pressure washer pump using water would be a safer choice.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498015667083_3779"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498015667083_3778"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498015667083_3719"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498015667083_3771"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498015667083_3770"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498015667083_3769"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498015667083_3775"><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 20, 2017 9:01 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pressure Test Chamber</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498015667083_3768"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498015667083_3774"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">I am making a plastic container to fill with water & stand inside my<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">pressure chamber. There is a gap between the wall of the container<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">& the chamber which I intend to fill with oil. There will be about an<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498015667083_3773"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">inch of air at the top of the chamber & I'm using a scuba tank to<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498015667083_3772"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">pressurise the unit up to 3000psi.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">Will car engine oil do to fill the gap between my plastic container &<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">the chamber wall, or do I need to go with a hydraulic fluid.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">Am using the plastic container to keep water from rusting my test<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">chamber. (Aussie Steve's idea)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">Cheers Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498015667083_3780"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black"><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black"><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="1" cellpadding="0" style="border:none;border-top:solid #D3D4DE 1.0pt"><tbody><tr><td width="55" style="width:41.25pt;border:none;padding:9.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="46" height="29" id="_x0000_i1026" src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width="470" style="width:352.5pt;border:none;padding:9.0pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.5pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#41424E">Virus-free. <a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link" target="_blank"><span style="color:#4453EA">www.avast.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>