<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498039393834_4916"><span>Hi Sean,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498039393834_4916">Thanks' that is great.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498039393834_4916">Hank</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 8:23 PM, Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3963880176"><div><div dir="ltr">Those properties would appear to be for the composite at large. </div>
<div dir="ltr">E = sigma / epsilon</div>
<div dir="ltr">Where E is the Modulus of Elasticity (also known as Young's Modulus), sigma is the applied stress, and epsilon is the resultant strain.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Compressive strength is given because presumably the material, like concrete, should not be loaded in tension. 3070 psi is likely to be the compressive yield strength of the composite at large (But could be e.g. the buckling strength of the spheres as a limiting factor).</div>
<div dir="ltr">From the stress / strain relationship given by the listed modulus, you can calculate the maximum compressive strain that you could subject it to before failure at 3070.</div>
<div dir="ltr">This is why strain gauges are used to characterize material and part performance in the field. You can draw a part in CAD, run a FEA simulation to predict the location of the greatest stress and its value, and then gauge it in the field to confirm the model.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Sean<br clear="none">
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<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv3963880176gmail_quote">On June 20, 2017 5:24:45 PM PDT, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<blockquote class="yiv3963880176gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="yiv3963880176yqt7571191068" id="yiv3963880176yqt73450"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div id="yiv3963880176yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498004221315_4921"><span>Thank you Sean,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3963880176yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498004221315_4921"><span>I am looking at a buoyant material (resin with spheres .67g\cc) and it says compressive strength 3,070 psi and also says Compressive Modulus 53,700 psi. I assume for my needs, I am only interested in the 3,070 psi fur buoyancy material under compression. Of coarse I will pressure test a sample before diving in.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3963880176yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1498004221315_4921"><span>Hank</span></div> <div class="yiv3963880176qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3963880176yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 5:37 PM, Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv3963880176y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3963880176"><div><div dir="ltr">Strength is a stress value at which the part fails, typically expressed in psi or MPa. There are two failure strengths typically quoted for a material: </div>
<div dir="ltr">The first is yield strength, which is the maximum stress (force per unit area) at which the deformation is entirely elastic (i.e. recoverable). Stress beyond yield can be carried by the material, but it will deform plastically and not return to its original dimension. Within the yield limit, stress vs strain exhibits a linear relationship. Stretch a material twice as far, and you will develop twice as much stress in it etc. </div>
<div dir="ltr">The second is the ultimate strength, or the maximum stress that can be developed in a material. If you strain a material beyond its yield point, what you typically see is the end of the linear stress / strain relationship, as the curve flattens to exhibit a slow rise up to the ultimate strength, and then a slow fall beyond that limit as you continue to stretch the material to failure. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Modulus is the slope of the linear portion of the curve within the yield point (stress/strain). The modulus is essentially a measure of the stiffness of the material. Modulus has the same units (psi or MPa) as strength, because strain is dimensionless (actually it is length change over original length, as in if I have a 10 cm rod that I stretch 0.5 cm beyond its unstretched length, I have developed 0.05 strain, or 5% strain in the material). Ceramics are high modulus materials, elastomers are low modulus.</div>
<div dir="ltr">By convention, most material properties quote the tensile strength values. For materials which vary significantly between tension and compression (or for which the primary strength is in compression, such as concrete), the compressive strengths and modulus will be used.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Sean<br clear="none">
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<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv3963880176gmail_quote">On June 20, 2017 3:39:59 PM PDT, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<blockquote class="yiv3963880176gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;">
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