<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491791077358_3407"><span>Hi Greg,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491791077358_3171" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491791077358_3198">The view through the conical port is ridiculously good </span>actually. In the original location, I could see right in front of the sub, so I am willing to loose a bit of the view in front. I need to experiment more to get the perfect balance. My original sphere sub had a 24 in dia 4 inch thick port, so needless to say it was awesome. The comfort was very good because I could sit back without leaning ahead. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491791077358_3171" dir="ltr">Hank</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, April 9, 2017 7:35 PM, james cottrell via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv8913852822"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><span></span></div><div class="yiv8913852822qtdSeparateBR" dir="ltr" id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491787296395_2747">Hi Hank,</div><div class="yiv8913852822qtdSeparateBR" dir="ltr" id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491787296395_2790"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8913852822qtdSeparateBR" dir="ltr" id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491787296395_2825">If I understand your email correctly, the only problem you will have is reduced view of the bottom since your port will be higher and angled slightly up during the dive. I ran into the same thing when laying out the side viewports for my sub- the ports needed to be comfortable to look out of and still give a good view downward. Captain Kittredge made the ports for me and made them extra heavy so they could be welded in "angled down" without losing too much strength. The view turned out to be pretty good.</div><div class="yiv8913852822qtdSeparateBR" dir="ltr" id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491787296395_2843"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8913852822qtdSeparateBR" dir="ltr" id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491787296395_2851">Just curious- how was the comfort/ view in your previous spherical sub compared to the new sub?</div><div class="yiv8913852822qtdSeparateBR" dir="ltr" id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491787296395_2858"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8913852822qtdSeparateBR" dir="ltr" id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491787296395_2859">Greg C<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8913852822yahoo_quoted" id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491787296395_2795" style="display:block;"> <div id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491787296395_2794" style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"> <div id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491787296395_2793" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv8913852822yqt5575531946" id="yiv8913852822yqt45325"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491787296395_2792"> <font id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491787296395_2797" face="Arial" size="2"> </font><hr id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491787296395_2796" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, April 9, 2017 11:41 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Elementary 3000 redesign<br clear="none"> </div> <div class="yiv8913852822y_msg_container" id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491787296395_2876"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv8913852822"><div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491750976757_2562">Hi All,</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491750976757_2562">I made a BooBoo when I designed Elementary 3000. I did not spend enough time mocking up the port position for comfort. With the current port location in relation to the hatch, it is uncomfortable. If I raise the port 10 inches by rotating the sphere it is comfortable. I can lean forward easily and look out the port in this position. This means my hatch would be off level at the surface. Does this matter? it is better for staying open I guess. The back of the land will be 3.5 inches lower than the front. </div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491750976757_2562">I am building a new body for the sphere to sit in-it will look more like a Square plastic ROV now than a submarine. I got the idea at Nuytco and actually commented to Phil that you could drop a sphere into the centre of their ROV and you would have a great sub. </div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491750976757_2562">My plan is to have two MBT's, one for and one aft inside the plastic panel enclosure. If I make the aft MBT larger in volume, the sub will float at the surface with the hatch level to the water. When I sink the sub it will be off level with the pilot sitting level with the port where it needs to be. I am using plastic dock floats for MBT's.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491750976757_2562">That should work </div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491750976757_2562">Hank</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8913852822yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1491750976757_2562"><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div><div class="yqt5575531946" id="yqt89580">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>