<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3161"><span>Jerry,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3186" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3185">there are lots of submersible manufacturers using lithium batteries.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3188" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3187">Nuytco are now using them on there Deep Worker 2000.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3237" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3236">I have a 48V 40ah lifepo4 battery pack for testing my thrusters on.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3238" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3276">I am holding off from purchasing batteries for my sub build till the last minute, as there</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3323" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3322">are promising developments with Lithium Sulphur batteries. These have</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3324" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3331">5 x the capacity of lithium iron batteries. Currently they don't demonstrate enough</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3408" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3407">charging cycles to be used for electric vehicles, but there are $millions being poured</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3448" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3458">into research on this problem by several large players throughout the World.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3459" dir="ltr"><span>Alan</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3389" dir="ltr"><span></span> </div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3127"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3133" style="display: block;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3132" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3131" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3130" dir="ltr"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3129" face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3128"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Jerry Koontz via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> personal submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>; personal submersibles-request <personal_submersibles-request@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 22, 2016 10:14 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 41, Issue 76<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1479766256627_3321"><br>Hi all,<br><br>I have been in the process of design for sub now for almost 9 months.<br>I have been reading all the e-mails that come across and have changed my design <br>many times over the course of the last months.<br><br>I am planning on using Lithium Phosphate batteries for the power. Lower weight per unit, physical size, and power cycles.<br>Has anyone tried this yet? What do you all think of this idea.<br>Looking forward to seeing your opinions.<br><br>Jerry Koontz<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: "personal submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:35:08 AM<br>Subject: Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 41, Issue 76<br><br>Send Personal_Submersibles mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://www.whoweb.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.whoweb.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-request@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-request@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-request@psubs.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-owner@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-owner@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-owner@psubs.org</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Personal_Submersibles digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Looking at starting up a Submersible project<br> (emile via Personal_Submersibles)<br> 2. Re: Looking at starting up a Submersible project<br> (Brian Hughes via Personal_Submersibles)<br> 3. Re: Looking at starting up a Submersible project<br> (James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles)<br> 4. Re: Looking at starting up a Submersible project<br> (via Personal_Submersibles)<br> 5. Re: compensating oil (Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 09:20:35 +0100<br>From: emile via Personal_Submersibles<br> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: "'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'"<br> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Looking at starting up a Submersible<br> project<br>Message-ID: <008201d243d0$23354d40$699fe7c0$@nl><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Welcome Ludwig,<br><br> <br><br>Good point to make a sgt.Peppers a little bigger. I rebfit it and dived with the sgt. Peppers. For both is 560 mm a bit cramped. 650-700 mm hull dia would be fine. Easy to make is capable for 300 ft.<br><br>Always good to look to K250 or other plans to make a start.<br><br> <br><br>Regards, Emile van Essen<br><br> <br><br>Van: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] Namens via Personal_Submersibles<br>Verzonden: maandag 21 november 2016 1:58<br>Aan: <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a><br>Onderwerp: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Looking at starting up a Submersible project<br><br> <br><br>Hello all, <br><br> <br><br>I'm looking into building a one person submersible next year but need some help getting started. <br><br> <br><br>The plane is to build it around the size of the Sgt. Peppers submersible but a little bigger. (I want it smaller than the K-250). Also I'm looking at having a working depth at around 150-200 feet. Any suggestions on where to get started? Should I by the plans for the K-250 and make it smaller?<br><br> <br><br>I don't know if it helps or not but I'm located in Lawrence, Kansas. <br><br> (And I won't be the first person to build a submersible in Kansas because it looks like that there's a man (Scott Waters) from Salina, KS that built a k-350.)<br><br> <br><br>If you guys have any questions, I would be happy to answer those for you.<br><br> <br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Ludwig Johanning<br><br> <br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20161121/b406c412/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20161121/b406c412/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 13:51:53 +0000 (UTC)<br>From: Brian Hughes via Personal_Submersibles<br> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Looking at starting up a Submersible<br> project<br>Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:219B85F470BD7B39.c6dc820d-1030-4680-886e-e3a69c0d22d0@mail.outlook.com" ymailto="mailto:219B85F470BD7B39.c6dc820d-1030-4680-886e-e3a69c0d22d0@mail.outlook.com">219B85F470BD7B39.c6dc820d-1030-4680-886e-e3a69c0d22d0@mail.outlook.com</a>><br> <br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br><br><br>I know of an original VAST boat someone is trying to sell out here on the East Coast.<br><br><br><br><br><br>Get Outlook for Android<br><br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20161121/faf2f3d3/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20161121/faf2f3d3/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 14:44:30 +0000<br>From: James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles<br> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Looking at starting up a Submersible<br> project<br>Message-ID:<br> <CAHpB=UD4FJ6Q5ar8BM4mMEEyiNy653HO4aksRJ+wY1pSxuL+<a href="mailto:0Q@mail.gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:0Q@mail.gmail.com">0Q@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>I think emile has a small ish boat requiring refurbishment for sale?<br>Probably worth the cost of shipping it over the pond to not have to build<br>from scratch.<br><br>On 21 November 2016 at 13:51, Brian Hughes via Personal_Submersibles <<br><a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br>> I know of an original VAST boat someone is trying to sell out here on the<br>> East Coast.<br>><br>><br>> Get Outlook for Android <<a href="https://aka.ms/ghei36" target="_blank">https://aka.ms/ghei36</a>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br>> <a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br>><br>><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20161121/312e72d4/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20161121/312e72d4/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 09:55:25 -0500<br>From: via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Looking at starting up a Submersible<br> project<br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:15887627059-3cbe-8cef@webprd-a85.mail.aol.com" ymailto="mailto:15887627059-3cbe-8cef@webprd-a85.mail.aol.com">15887627059-3cbe-8cef@webprd-a85.mail.aol.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>That really doesn't help me much because I'm planning on moving across the pond in around two years!<br><br><br>I'm looking at a small project that would teach me all the systems so when I move across the pond, I would like to build something along the Euronaut size or a tiny bit smaller.<br><br><br>I've also debated if I should do a wet-sub instead because if I go that route, I wouldn't have to build a pressure hull. That would only limit me down to 130 foot allowed for recreational diving.<br><br><br>-Ludwig<br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Sent: Mon, Nov 21, 2016 8:44 am<br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Looking at starting up a Submersible project<br><br><br><br>I think emile has a small ish boat requiring refurbishment for sale? Probably worth the cost of shipping it over the pond to not have to build from scratch.<br><br><br>On 21 November 2016 at 13:51, Brian Hughes via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br>I know of an original VAST boat someone is trying to sell out here on the East Coast.<br><br><br><br>Get Outlook for Android<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br><br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20161121/9717e32c/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20161121/9717e32c/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 08:35:29 -0800<br>From: Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles<br> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion"<br> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] compensating oil<br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:20161121083529.F9AE3CC@m0087797.ppops.net" ymailto="mailto:20161121083529.F9AE3CC@m0087797.ppops.net">20161121083529.F9AE3CC@m0087797.ppops.net</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20161121/ae634e19/attachment.html" target="_blank">http://www.whoweb.com/pipermail/personal_submersibles/attachments/20161121/ae634e19/attachment.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Subject: Digest Footer<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.whoweb.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.whoweb.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>End of Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 41, Issue 76<br>*****************************************************<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>