<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478169008069_5493"><span>Hi Phil,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478169008069_5458"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478169008069_5457">Thank you, can you tell me if the scrubber is different than a typical cylindrical scrubber, given the curved rectangle shape. A picture of a DW scrubber would be great. It is the space saving shape I am wanting to copy, but I am not clear on how the absorbent is evenly exposed to air flow. </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478169008069_5458"><span>Thank you</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478169008069_5458"><span>Hank</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 8:24 PM, Phil Nuytten via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9291631278"><div dir="ltr">
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<div>Hi, Hank,</div>
<div>Tried to send this info from the office but I don’t think it went
through.</div>
<div>Regarding your request for the type of motor/fan we use in the DeepWorker
subs scrubbers: It is a DC brushless computer cooler fan made by Delta
Electronics Inc. Model # AFB0824HH, DC 24V 0.15A T500.</div>
<div>Available from Digikey # 1469-ND, price = $14.00 USD</div>
<div>Regards</div>
<div>Phil</div>
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<div style=""><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">Phil Nuytten via
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 01, 2016 6:39 PM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] scrubber</div></div></div></div>
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<div>Hi, Hank,</div>
<div>Just got in from a three day video shoot offshore Vancouver – Unpacking my
dive gear and gonna hit the sack early – everything’s tired!</div>
<div>Will get back to you on the scrubber fan
<div style="FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;"><font size="3" face="Calibri">size and make.</font></div>
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<div><font size="3" face="Calibri">Phil</font></div>
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<div style=""><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="personal_submersibles@psubs.org" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">hank pronk via
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 01, 2016 3:09 PM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] scrubber</div></div></div>
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<div><span>Thanks Cliff,</span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span>I have the same question, but after thinking about it today,
I realize that the shape of the container is </span>irrelevant. I can
treat it like a round scrubber with a fan at the end with an air space between
the fan and absorbent bed. I am just not sure if it is axial because the
scrubber seems to be a mesh body. I also did not pay much attention on my
tour, I was a bit overwhelmed.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Hank</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 2:13 PM, Cliff
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<div style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt;"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">Hank, don’t know all the detail on the Deepworker 2000 but will
convey what I know.<span> </span></font></font><font color="#000000" size="3">Maybe Phil will chime in with details.</font></font></div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font>
<div style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt;"><font face="Calibri"><font size="3"><font color="#000000">The system uses his O2 bellow add valve which bleeds 100% O2 into
the cabin based on a drop in barometric pressure from the time the hatch was
closed.<span> </span></font></font><font color="#000000" size="3">At the time
of launch SOP calls for them to pull a slight vacuum in the boat to assure the
hatch o-ring is sealed and to make it easier to dog the hatch
latches.</font><span><font color="#000000" size="3"> </font></span><font color="#000000" size="3">The last spec I saw on the DW 2000, the endurance is 80
hours. There are two scrubbers (one redundant), each containing 12 lbs of
SodaSorb HP. There is also a BIBS system.</font><span><font color="#000000" size="3"> </font></span><font color="#000000" size="3">They have O2 and CO2
monitors.</font><span><font color="#000000" size="3"> </font></span><font color="#000000" size="3">The O2 bottles are externally mounted.</font><span><font color="#000000" size="3"> </font></span><font color="#000000" size="3">Since his
life support endurance is 80 hours, I he should have in excess of 80 scf of
O2.</font><span><font color="#000000" size="3"> </font></span><font color="#000000" size="3">I don’t know how the Sodasorb is set up to filter, axial or
radially nor do I know the type of blower he is using in the
scrubbers.</font><span><font color="#000000" size="3"> </font></span><font color="#000000" size="3">As long as the blower on the scrubber is strong enough to
circulate the cabin air through the filter every hour or so, the 100% O2 that is
blead into the cabin will mix with the cabin air due to molecular
diffusion.</font></font></div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font>
<div style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri">I believe he uses the same basic life support system on all his
boats.<span> </span></font></font></font></div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font>
<div style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Calibri">Phil’s
paper on Life support </font><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/design/lifesupport/lifesupport.pdf"><font color="#0000ff" size="3" face="Calibri">http://www.psubs.org/design/lifesupport/lifesupport.pdf</font></a><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Calibri"> is a good read on how his bellows add system
work and life support in general.</font></div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font>
<div style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt;"><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri">When Phil let the PSub members dive his subs at the Vancouver PSub
Convention, I remember seeing the scrubbers and noting they were compact but I
was more focused on diving the DW 2000 so did not pay too much attention to the
scrubber design.<span> </span></font></font></font></div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font>
<div style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt;"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Calibri">The
two key things I would like to know is what is the make and model of the blower
he uses and is the filter oriented to pull the cabin air radially or axially
through the Sodasorb HP.</font></div>
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<div id="yiv9291631278m_-27303891125775751yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478002255312_2773">Can
anyone explain how the DW scrubber works? How is the air defused
equally when the shape is irregular. I want to copy the concept of
a scrubber that fits tight to the hull to save space. </div>
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