<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Thanks Hugh,</div><div>I just got a price of $160 NZ for a 1/4" 316 excess flow valve.</div><div>A lot cheaper than I thought. However looking at the data on their standard</div><div>XS4 series, the "trip" flow on 3000psi is 250 cubic ft per minute or 116 litres</div><div>per second. I had measured roughly 2 litres per second coming out of my</div><div>1st stage high pressure port.</div><div>They do say they have smaller springs for tripping at a lower flow but it</div><div>might be a big step to get to what I want ie. tripping with virtually no flow.</div><div>For me I am leaning toward the option of potting the electronic gauge that</div><div>Steve suggested & having wires through the hull to a plc. plus have contents </div><div>gauges within view of my dome.</div><div>Cheers Alan </div><div><br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 3/11/2016, at 8:34 am, Hugh Fulton via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Hank / Alan,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There are excess flow valves available for air/gas. We make them but also Swagelok have them. Ours are industrial for high gas flows.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You need to make sure they are self resetting. Hugh<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Personal_Submersibles [<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 3 November 2016 1:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Electronic contents gauge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478088642436_9199"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Alan,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478088642436_9199"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">There is a hydraulic component on cranes etc the allows oil to flow at a set rate, but if the flow increases dramatically the component becomes a shut off valve. This is to protect people and equipment in case a hose or seal blows out. maybe there is aa air equivalent?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478088642436_9199"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Hank<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:43 AM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div id="yiv8957119398"><div><div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4220"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">I just experimented with the flow from the high pressure port<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4182"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">on my 1st stage regulator. That's the one your pressure gauge runs off.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4181"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Even though the hole is literally a pin prick, I was getting at least<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4162"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">2 liters a second flow out of it. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4160"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">I am building a similar sized sub to Cliff's R300 & a leak like that,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4164"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">apart from increasing the pressure massively, would be hazardous<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4292"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">if it was O2. In 4 minutes I could have 70% O2 based on an air<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4294"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">volume in the sub of 250 liters.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4317"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">I think I'll go for a pressure gauge outside my view port or try potting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4346"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">a digital pressure gauge & just send the wires through a penetrator.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4353"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4078"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4158"><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4157"><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4156"><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4215"><div id="yiv8957119398yqtfd67376"><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 2, 2016 12:41 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Electronic contents gauge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv8957119398yqtfd31492"><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4155"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="yiv8957119398"><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4212"><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4213"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks for the advice Steve.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4211"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">I haven't looked in to the electronic oxygen add system too deeply.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Bound to have some questions later on.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4375"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Cheers Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4376"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yqt51556"><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4377"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>On 1/11/2016, at 9:39 pm, Stephen Fordyce via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4381"><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4380"><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4379"><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4378"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks Alan - I should probably point out that my Watchdogs are rather literally named - ie. they can sense something is wrong and do something simple about it, but are limited in how complex the reaction can be. It can only handle one O2 input, and the control is limited by controller settings - it's an off-the-shelf item and not fully programmable like a PLC. Good for an independent backup or alarm. As a primary system it could be made to work but would require a thoughtful setup.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4382"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4383"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Eventually I do plan to make a rebreather controller (for the rebreather I'm designing) which would be perfect (many O2 cell inputs and a solenoid or two output), but that's a while away!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">A key thing to consider in automatic oxygen adding is placement of sensors, natural mixing of the air and sufficient time delay in the control system to get meaningful feedback before the next oxygen injection (Ie. rebreather controllers squirt a little bit of oxygen in, wait a few seconds for it to mix, and then measure, and squirt in more accordingly).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4384"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4385"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4386"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4387"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">PS: I also have some M12 plated brass Blue Globe cable glands if you find yourself short a couple - very hard to get down here.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4393"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4392"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4390"><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4389"><div id="yiv8957119398m_-1904202565053152574yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477970226444_3134"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>Steve,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398m_-1904202565053152574yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477970226444_3183"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">sending this again as I didn't receive it...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398m_-1904202565053152574yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477970226444_3186"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Steve,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398m_-1904202565053152574yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477970226444_3188"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">I am wanting to build an O2 system like James Cameron had.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398m_-1904202565053152574yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477970226444_3190"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">An O2 valve that flows continuously with a top up from a solenoid<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398m_-1904202565053152574yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477970226444_3192"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">valve which triggered by a plc that is receiving signals from 3 x O2 sensors. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398m_-1904202565053152574yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477970226444_3194"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Mainly because I want to keep everything as small as possible.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398m_-1904202565053152574yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477970226444_3196"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> With your O2 unit it looks like you could have it doing similar;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398m_-1904202565053152574yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477970226444_3198"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">turn on a solenoid to top up the O2 beyond what is flowing in from<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398m_-1904202565053152574yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477970226444_3200"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">a pre-set valve. A bellows add system that replaces the bellows with<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398m_-1904202565053152574yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477970226444_3202"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">your "Oxygen Watchdog"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398m_-1904202565053152574yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477970226444_3204"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Know what you mean about UK freight charges, have cancelled items<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398m_-1904202565053152574yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477970226444_3206"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">because of ridiculous freight charges. Thanks for the offer of buying<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398m_-1904202565053152574yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477970226444_3208"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">through your firm.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv8957119398m_-1904202565053152574yiv7750647722yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477958744792_5053"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Cheers Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>______________________________ _________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4394">Personal_Submersibles@psubs. org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/ listinfo.cgi/personal_ submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4398"><div id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4397"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4395">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="yiv8957119398yqt31552"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank" id="yiv8957119398yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478077967724_4399">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="yqtfd47991"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>