<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div><span>My floating launch cart was better on paper than in the water lol. I don't like the idea of temporary lift from bags, I think it will tip over.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>I am thinking about a drop down beavertail, and hydraulic driven rollers. I am sure there will be a new idea tomorrow.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>Hank</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:05 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv0788424471"><div><div>Yes, you don't want it coming off the trailer & sitting in the mud.</div><div>What happened to your floating trailer idea? Or can you fit air bags low down</div><div>on the sub, just to aid buoyancy for tricky launching.</div><div> Ok here's another idea that you are well capable of implementing..... you</div><div>have a floating trailer with pontoons down either side & twin outboards on the</div><div>end of the pontoons. You drive your trailer in far enough to get the props under,</div><div>then use outboard power to pull the trailer out till it's floating then use it as a tender </div><div>to get to your dive spot.!</div><div>Alan<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div class="yiv0788424471yqt3285470671" id="yiv0788424471yqt94526"><div><br clear="none">On 17/10/2016, at 9:16 am, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div><span>Alan, </span></div><div id="yiv0788424471yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476648596778_3558"><span id="yiv0788424471yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476648596778_3557">That would work if the sub had a raked front end or the trailer had a beavertail. Not a bad solution indeed, the trailer would need full rollers for the sub to roll off. Gamma has a raked guard now, </span>hmmmm you got me thinking, might be less work. I am not in love with the sub sitting on rollers though. </div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0788424471yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476648596778_3556">The lake has not enough depth at the end of the ramp or further out. The sub could cruise out but it would be close to hitting bottom. </div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0788424471yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476648596778_3556">Hank</div> <div class="yiv0788424471qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv0788424471yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, October 16, 2016 1:30 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv0788424471y_msg_container"><div id="yiv0788424471"><div><div>Just googled this idea for a shallow launch & wondered if a more</div><div>beefed up version would help. ( 2 parts to the video)</div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=47y0KNSvUgs">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=47y0KNSvUgs</a></div><div>Alan</div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div class="yiv0788424471yqt5964738350" id="yiv0788424471yqt44732"><div><br clear="none">On 17/10/2016, at 6:28 am, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0788424471yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476638766478_5773"><span id="yiv0788424471yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476638766478_5772">There is a real nice lake 20 minutes from home that I can't get in, (Columbia Lake) yes the start of the mighty Columbia river. The A frame will allow me to dive there.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0788424471yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476638766478_5773"><span>Hank</span></div> <div class="yiv0788424471qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv0788424471yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, October 16, 2016 11:22 AM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv0788424471y_msg_container"><div id="yiv0788424471"><div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">Interesting idea ! <br clear="none"><br clear="none">--- <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sub launch<br clear="none">Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 16:18:43 +0000 (UTC)<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv0788424471yqt7380785805" id="yiv0788424471yqt67216"><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div>Hi all,</div><div dir="ltr">I have been pondering the age old problem of launching in shallow water. I am making new fibreglass MBT's for Gamma in a few weeks or so, I will increase the diameter to give me more free board. The steel tanks are a bit to heavy and could use more volume. Also the thruster tubes will be vectored in the new tanks.</div><div dir="ltr">But that will only help with launching in shallow water a bit. I am thinking that typically the water is deep enough for the sub alone without the trailer. So my plan is to install an A frame on the trailer that can lift the sub when it is backed into the water. The sub is light at this point, so lifting it off the trailer is easy and then the A frame tilts back dragging the sub off the trailer. To load the sub, just drive it up to the back of the trailer and hook the cable to the lifting eye, then tilt the A frame forward, it lifts the sub and drags it onto the trailer. I figure I will need a roller on the end of the trailer to help the sub slide ahead.</div><div dir="ltr">Easy Peezy</div><div dir="ltr">Hank</div></div></div>_______________________________________________
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