<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475428606653_5114"><span>Alan,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475428606653_5114" dir="ltr"><span>I just need travelling motors, no reverse needed. Maybe I should experiment with submersible well pumps. I can get 1 hp model for under 200 dollars. They are pretty much ready to go, the rpm is </span>troubling though at 3400. I am not sure how they would last running off an inverter also. Lots to consider.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475428606653_5114" dir="ltr">Hank</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:48 AM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv8748507062"><div><div>Hank,</div><div>I Assume the seals are just rubber rotary seals like the Minnkota.</div><div>I have a few Cheap Chinese trolling motors. These ones might be</div><div>of a better standard. </div><div>I would love you to buy one so I can find out how they are constructed,</div><div>but it is a bit of a gamble. It may be that it is a great find & you can</div><div>modify the seals easily. </div><div>Emile was running the Protruar 2 hp brushless geared thruster on his sub,</div><div>& said it was a bit noisy. I believe he has now replaced it.</div><div>I was drawing an extra 1 amp off 50V (50w) on full throttle with oil (10cst)</div><div>in the housing. So it's not too much of a loss on a 2000W motor.</div><div>Alan<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div><br clear="none">On 3/10/2016, at 4:23 am, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475421490098_5108"><span>Alan,</span></div><div id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475421490098_5107">You say they have a substandard seal, what does that mean. Surely they hold the water out. Would the seal configuration determine wether it is air or oil compensated. The part I like is the power ratings, forget thrust because that is all crap. But the amps, watts and volts, you could assume to be true. Maybe if the seal is poor, it could be upgraded.</div><div id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475421490098_5107">Hankes might </div> <div class="yiv8748507062yqt3095819009" id="yiv8748507062yqtfd94056"><div class="yiv8748507062qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8748507062yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, October 2, 2016 5:02 AM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv8748507062y_msg_container"><div id="yiv8748507062"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3654"><span>Hi Hank,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3648"><span id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3647">I have done endless Googling looking for brushless trolling motors &</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3646"><span id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3645">saw these two which seem a similar animal</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3589"><span id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3594"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3593" target="_blank" href="http://www.sportrend.com/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=397">http://www.sportrend.com/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=397</a></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3655"><span></span><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3656"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3688" target="_blank" href="http://www.sportrend.com/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=406">http://www.sportrend.com/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=406</a><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3693"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3841">I contacted the supplier as I was wanting to buy the first item, but there were </div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3840">things they told me that didn't seem right, & the freight was very expensive,</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3857">so I didn't bother.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3776">You still have the problem of their sub standard seal. Would love to pull one apart.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3815">I am due to put my latest motor & housing in the pool tomorrow.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3839">I did some tests running it with & without oil & it's looking good.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3828">If it runs well in the pool I will build my final housing (hopefully) with</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3838">a mechanical seal. </div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3863">Cheers Alan<br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3644"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8748507062qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3500"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8748507062yahoo_quoted" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3513" style="display:block;"> <div id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3512" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3511" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv8748507062yqt2771671501" id="yiv8748507062yqt65335"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3510"> <font id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3509" face="Arial" size="2"> </font><hr id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3508" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> <b id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3588"><span id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3587" style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, October 2, 2016 8:32 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw: motor<br clear="none"> </div> <div class="yiv8748507062y_msg_container" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3545"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv8748507062"><div id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3544"><div id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475405136906_3543" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475350113038_2997"><span></span></div><div class="yiv8748507062qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475350113038_2998">Hi All</div><div class="yiv8748507062qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475350113038_2998">Check out this brushless 124lb trolling motor. What do you think? it has a controller inside the motor, not sure that can handle pressure. maybe the controller can be removed and kept inside the sub. I want to add two motors or more for long distance travel with an independent battery bank. The current set up is to slow. I figure this is better than adding a diesel engine. </div><div class="yiv8748507062qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475350113038_2998">Hank<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> <div class="yiv8748507062yahoo_quoted" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475350113038_3175" style="display:block;"> <div id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475350113038_3174" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475350113038_3173" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475350113038_3172"><font id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475350113038_3176" face="Arial" size="2"> On Saturday, October 1, 2016 1:28 PM, xxx xxxxx <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mp13@live.ca" target="_blank" href="mailto:mp13@live.ca">mp13@live.ca</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv8748507062y_msg_container" id="yiv8748507062yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475350113038_3195"><div id="yiv8748507062">
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