<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473496246522_8765"><span>Hi Tim,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473496246522_8661"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473496246522_8662">An inner tube is a very good option and was my first idea also. I am just exploring other ideas. The difference with my sub to Cousteau's is my saucer is an actual MBT that creates significant lift and houses my trawl floats. </span>Cousteau's sub had no freeboard to speak of, kinda like the DW's . If i can not come up with a reliable inflatable solution, I will look at a clear acrylic CT. I plan to use my barge as a support vessel with the capability to lift Elementary onto the deck. The barge will also have a small cabin on deck for overnight adventures. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473496246522_8661">Hank</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Friday, September 9, 2016 8:19 PM, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv6369364415"><style>#yiv6369364415 #yiv6369364415 --
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#yiv6369364415 </style><div><div class="yiv6369364415WordSection1"><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Hank,</span></div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Why not a big farm tractor tire tube, or perhaps two welded together but with separate air cells?</span></div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">I don’t think Cousteau had much success with his inflatable skirt effort. The saucer and his one man subs were boarded on Calypso's deck, hatches locked down, then craned over the side to launch. Recovery was the reverse. You already know that Cousteau was envious of the Nektons' sub launching capabilities. The Mir pair is handled similarly to the Cousteau subs with even more effort. Can't beat a hard CT. </span></div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">I think Sgt Pepper's could use a CT with view ports. This would allow sitting headroom along with easier deployment.</span></div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Tim</span></div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv6369364415yqt9665594899" id="yiv6369364415yqt75962"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 9, 2016 2:01 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw: skirt</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">Kieth,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">The lift tube is a big bag, I need a tube that the hatch can open inside. The idea is to have a sail that is collapsible and buoyant.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">Hank</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">On Friday, September 9, 2016 2:45 PM, k6fee via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:</span><span style=""></span></div></div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div><div><div id="yiv6369364415"><div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Hank,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">How about using a commercial salvage lift tube. They are rated for heavy loads and very durrable.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Keith T.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv6369364415composer_signature"><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone</span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv6369364415yqt51600"><div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">-------- Original message --------</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Date: 9/9/16 11:48 AM (GMT-08:00) </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw: skirt </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div></div><div><div id="yiv6369364415yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473446853167_3104"><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">Hi All,</span></div></div><div id="yiv6369364415yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473446853167_3104"><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">Anyone have an idea what I can use to make an inflatable skirt like the one in the picture?</span></div></div><div id="yiv6369364415yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473446853167_3104"><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">Hank</span></div></div><div id="yiv6369364415yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473446853167_3098"><div class="yiv6369364415MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;"> </span></div></div><div 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