<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1470584700284_4651"><span>Antoine,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1470584700284_4652" dir="ltr">How are you making a cover? Are you simply bagging the batteries? </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1470584700284_4652" dir="ltr">I actually thought it was the paint also.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1470584700284_4652" dir="ltr">Hank</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, August 7, 2016 9:56 AM, Antoine Delafargue via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2520687936"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Alan and everyone</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Ok Carsten you may be right. We tested the batteries and they do trigger the CO readings. so that is hydrogen right? no possibility to emit CO for a battery?</div><div>but they do so when disconnected, neither when charged nor discharged! which is puzzling.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>for now we are making a cover for the batteries and we ll put our catalyst Inside.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>regards</div><div>Antoine</div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv2520687936gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv2520687936gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 4:49 AM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv2520687936gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv2520687936yqt9109672640" id="yiv2520687936yqt98732"><div><div>I wonder if there is anything coming out of the interior paint over time.</div><div>sometimes paint takes months to dry properly.</div><div>Or I have heard of the monitors being upset by paint fumes even though</div><div>they are not CO. You could heat up a section of paint work to help accelerate </div><div>any leaching of chemicals, & tape a plastic bag with your CO meter in it</div><div>over the heated area of paint. If this is the problem go home & heat the interior</div><div>for as many weeks as it takes.</div><div>You will get there eventually. Most of the hard work has been done already.</div><div>All the best.</div><span></span><div>Alan</div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div><div class="yiv2520687936h5"><div><br clear="none">On 7/08/2016, at 12:22 pm, Antoine Delafargue via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs. org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>not sure H2 could be the culprit, as we charge batteries with open hatch and then when diving we use minimal power levels.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>We do have active charcoal and Sofnocat H2/CO catalyst (which by the way was warm when the CO level became high and we pulled it out)</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>regards</div><div>Antoine</div></div><div class="yiv2520687936gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv2520687936gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 9:38 PM, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de" target="_blank" href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs. org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv2520687936gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="margin:0px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none;">Has Pilotfish Activcoal filter? Katalyst for H2 burning?<br clear="none"></span></div>
<div style="margin:0px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none;">CO2 scrubber works normal on a little higher CO2 niveau than normal. </span></div>
<div style="margin:0px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none;">Some O2 mask for half our all 6 hours use or so could make it a better stay. </span></div>
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<div style="margin:0px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none;">Two person in such a tiny space for so long..<br clear="none"></span></div>
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<div class="yiv2520687936MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Arial', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;">The batteries are not charged inside the sub. If the CO sensor is so sensitive on H2, this might be the problem.</span></div>
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<div style="margin:0px;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Arial', 'sans-serif';color:black;">Antoine - if my CO Monitor on the Euronaut shows me 300 ppm CO this means probably it is 60 ppm H2. </span></div>
<div style="margin:0px;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Arial', 'sans-serif';color:black;">The sensor count both and shows H2 fifes time higher than it is. Will see what the blood test shows. </span></div>
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<div class="yiv2520687936MsoNormal">we had to abort our trip not far after the beginning, as we detected quite a lot of carbon monoxide build up in the cabin, and could not find what it was and how to manage it. it basically reached 300ppm after 10 hours which is huge. We had brought some catalytic filter to human CO production twenty times lower than that. So the catalyst filter was not really able to get the rate down. It is not oxygen pollution. </div>
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<div class="yiv2520687936MsoNormal">On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 3:09 PM, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.o rg</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="yiv2520687936MsoNormal"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">On Friday, 5 August 2016, emile via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.o rg</a>> wrote:</div>
<div class="yiv2520687936MsoNormal">Hi Alan,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I also wanted t notify the group about the start. The Fb page of the project<br clear="none">is the quickest link for info with sometimes near live video.<br clear="none">A friend who supplied the comsets will be on the surface vessel from<br clear="none">Guernsey to st. Malo<br clear="none">The air quality or bad luck can cause failure; not the sub or the crew!<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Regards, Emile<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<br clear="none">Van: Personal_Submersibles [<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">mailto:personal_submersibles- bounces@psubs.org</a>]<br clear="none">Namens Alan via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none">Verzonden: vrijdag 5 augustus 2016 14:39<br clear="none">Aan: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br clear="none">Onderwerp: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Project Pilot Fish<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I have just seen on Facebook that Project Pilot Fish, where the guys are<br clear="none">peddling their submarine across the English Channel, has started. I saw a<br clear="none">video of them being towed out to sea. Emile did a lot of the build.<br clear="none">Hope they make it, but have my doubts as it is quite a feat.<br clear="none">If anyone (Emile) can update the group on the progress, it would be<br clear="none">appreciated.<br clear="none">Antoine has done an amazing job bringing this all together & getting<br clear="none">sponsorship.<br clear="none">Alan<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad<br clear="none">______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.or g</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/l istinfo.cgi/personal_submersib les</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.or g</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/l istinfo.cgi/personal_submersib les</a></div>
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