<div dir="ltr">I am sound like a newbie. So the best starting point is K-250, K-350? What is a cost of K-350? Douglas thank you for advice.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-07-17 20:23 GMT+02:00 Douglas Suhr via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Kamil, a visit to subs in your general area is a great idea if you can find the time to slip away. 'Manned Submersibles' is an awesome resource as well, kudos to you for your willingness to do research prior to starting your first build. <div><br></div><div>Without trying to sound discouraging, I want to say that to me, the goals you outlined in a previous email seem quite ambitious. If you have the financial means, time/space and necessary fabrication skills, anything is possible, but for many of us, we're on a "budget" when it comes to all of those things, so you may find that your dream sub is not practical as a first build. In my opinion, a K-350 would be a great project for you to start with, then work your way to a larger sub. Just my thoughts... Doug S.  </div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 7:16 AM, <a href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de" target="_blank">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Description fits 100% on Emiles - Nordicsub. vbr Carsten<br></span></p><span>
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<div dir="ltr">And I see that Emilie have an option on the website to sale a plan for a sub. I will check that.</div>
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<div>Thank you for a lot of information, You have a right that I should make trip like this,</div>
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<div>Hmm, as i thinking about requirement list it is simply:</div>
<div>3 person sound great,</div>
<div>dive deep 200m</div>
<div>seas and lakes,</div>
<div>best will be undependly.</div>
<div>Easy to write hard to make.I started read a book Manned Submerisble, maybe it will help something.</div>
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<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Hi Kamil, welcome here. Not so so Much Psubers in Europe. </span></p>
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<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">There is a another two seater in Potsdam near Berlin. Reinhards Nemo II. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">And yes one one man and one fife man in Rostock. <br></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Before you build something in real steel maybe go Berlin - Rostock  - Amsterdam to get some input. </span></p>
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<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Just to purchase some drawings and than convert to someting else make not so much sence for a custom build. </span></p>
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<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">First step should be a requirement list. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">How many persons ?</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Which range in which time?</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Dive deep. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Seaworthy or lakes, co caves or all? </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Undependly orwith a support boat ? </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">And so on. A sub for the baltic will look complete different from a cave diver. </span></p>
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<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Berlin:Reinhards 2 Seater with saddle tanks</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf4DS0r6n44" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf4DS0r6n44</a></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Rostock:My boats. <br></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">One man 0,5 t with sadlle tanks and for sale, </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">second unita is a 70ts Offhsore with diver chamber and for and aft tanks</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYaTaWY0dhg" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYaTaWY0dhg</a></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRv2Ri4FmiY" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRv2Ri4FmiY</a></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Near Amsterdam:  Emiles 3 Seater with Saddle tanks</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2975eaBmYs" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2975eaBmYs</a></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">On a 1-3 Seater I prefer sattle tanks. Boat gets shorter length </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">and much mors stable on the surface with persons on the deck. . </span></p>
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<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">There is another boat near Hannover: Lars Boat Comet</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKgKKrghP5g" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKgKKrghP5g</a></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0px">Von: "Kamil Żebrowski via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></p>
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