<DIV style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif; font-size:10pt;"><DIV>Jim, I never thought about a spry on adhesive, probably a lot cheaper than the stuff I am using. One reason I've been thinking of uses for this glue I have is because it has a limited shelf life of under one year. I've been keeping it in the frig so I can extend it as long as possible.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Brian<BR><BR>--- personal_submersibles@psubs.org wrote:<BR><BR>From: via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR>To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org<BR>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] progress<BR>Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 01:47:23 -0400<BR><BR>
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</DIV><DIV><FONT size="3">Brian,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size="3">I had never used spray-on adhesives until the last few
months. I've really liked the flexibility and control you can maintain by
varying how thinly or thickly you apply it especially when working with
fabric. Thin is great for temporary bonding; thick for more
permanent. It has worked very well for tacking fabric in place on
irregular surfaces without wrinkling and still being able to
readjust/reposition it. Possibly it would have an application in what you
are doing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size="3">Jim</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 4/29/2016 12:21:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
personal_submersibles@psubs.org writes:</DIV>
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<DIV>Hank,</DIV>
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I've done a lot of fiberglass and resin both polyester and epoxy, making
surfboards and such, the resin will go right thru the glass no problem.
I would like to see how you could make glass stick upside down, especially if
it was coated first. Trying to do that even if the surface is right side
up would be problematic. With an already wet surface you run the risk of
not being able to place the fiberglass perfectly flat, one minor screw up and
you would have a wrinkled gooey mess on your hands. Ideally
working on a right side up surface would be the best, but short of that I
think my glue method worked pretty darn good, I may have to even make a
youtube instructional video !! </DIV>
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<DIV>Brian<BR><BR>--- personal_submersibles@psubs.org wrote:<BR><BR>From: hank
pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR>To:
Personal Submersibles General Discussion
<personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
progress<BR>Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 20:39:02 +0000 (UTC)<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Brian,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Be careful, I always wet the surface then apply matting or you run
the risk of not having adhesion. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Hank</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir="ltr"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">On Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:10 PM,
Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
wrote:<BR></FONT></DIV><BR><BR>
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<DIV> I found another use for my super expensive EPDM adhesive :
Gluing fiberglass cloth onto an upside down surface
! This way I was able to apply the epoxy while it was
held up there. </DIV>
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<DIV>Brian <BR><BR>--- personal_submersibles@psubs.org
wrote:<BR><BR>From: Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles
<personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR>To: "PSubs "
<personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR>Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
progress<BR>Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:01:01 -0700<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I'm making some good progress in taking care of those pesky pinhole leaks
in some areas on the ferro cement hull. I filled the really bad one
hydraulically with cement, the 3M 5200 is a bit too viscous for the
pinhole leaks even with a vacuum going on the hull. Everything is pretty
closed up now. Finally, I'm doing fiberglass and epoxy resin over the
whole area that has been giving me trouble. I think on my next sub I'll
construct a giant rotational single axial machine so I can make sure all the
voids get filled. Also, as I've use a lot of fiberglass and epoxy here
and there I'm coming to the realization that encapsulating the entire
ferro hull with fiberglass and epoxy would be beneficial. Although, the
ferro cement sailboat book I followed to construct my hull, did not recommend
it ( but they weren't building a sub). Getting ready to start
concentrating on lead ! I'll probably have to add another
axel to my trailer because of the extra weight ;-) </DIV>
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