<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461110549169_4179"><span>Steve,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461110549169_4218"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461110549169_4217">Yes correct, I would simply build another sub and go get it.;-) The 100 foot test is no problem if it fails, I would just go get it with Gamma. </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461110549169_4218"><span>Hank</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 5:08 PM, Stephen Fordyce via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2482417850"><div><div dir="ltr">If you couldn't get it up you'd have to build another sub to go and get it... :)</div>
<div dir="ltr">Hope for the best, plan for the worst? Ie. Perhaps so long as you have a cable strong enough to pull a flooded sub up and a buoy big enough to leave on the (heavy??) cable then you would at least have the option of returning with a bigger boat/crane/more gear.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Bear in mind that lift bags are going to need a lot of gas at that depth. Ie. An 80cf aluminum tank at 3000PSI if fully emptied into a lift bag will provide 2200kg of lift on the surface, but only 73kg at 1000ft depth.</div>
<div dir="ltr">But since you're leak testing in 100ft and it's way less than design pressure, failure would be extremely unlikely so maybe as you say just trust your manufacturing is good :)</div>
<div dir="ltr">Cheers,<br clear="none">
Steve</div>
<div class="yiv2482417850gmail_quote">On 20 Apr 2016 6:09 am, "hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv2482417850gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv2482417850yqt8445807821" id="yiv2482417850yqt99740"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div dir="ltr"><span>I was just thinking I could put my </span>safety valve on. When I was getting Gamma ready to test, I built a valve system that went between the sub and the lift rope. When the lift rope over powers two springs a HP air valve opens and air goes into the MBT. I have it so might as well use it in case a trawl float or two fail? </div><div dir="ltr">Hank</div> <div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 1:03 PM, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Sounds good Hank. Good luck. Take some pics for us.</div><div>Regards</div><div>James</div></div><div><br clear="none"><div>On 19 April 2016 at 18:29, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"><div><span>Hi Rick,</span></div><div><span>No plan for recovery, just faith that I built it well.</span></div><span><font color="#888888"></font></span><div><span>Hank</span></div><div><div> <div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 11:21 AM, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div><div><div><div dir="ltr">Hank,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Do you have a plan to lift her back to the surface and tow her back in if she takes on water and becomes heavy? That's a lot of investment in time and money to leave her there.</div><div>Rick</div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div><br clear="none"><div>On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 6:12 AM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;"><div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"><div dir="ltr">Big week this, tomorrow I test the deep dive test system to 100 feet in my favourite lake. Saturday I drive out to Slocan Lake, then at 6 am Sunday morning I will be on the lake towing Elementary 3000 to the deepest spot, 980 feet. I will let her sink to the bottom on a rope and let it sit for one hr. Maybe I should bring a fishing rod for the wait ;-) Actually I will lift the sub a few feet often to see if it is getting heavier. Hopefully it will be a success and I will pull her up and tow her home. I can start diving her after all that, and in the fall I will haul her to Burnaby BC for the pressure pot test to 4,700 feet. I would do it now but I am unemployed still ;-(</div><span><font color="#888888"></font></span><div dir="ltr">Hank </div></div></div></div><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">
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