<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div><span>Sean,</span></div><div><span>How far apart will the o-rings be to give you adequate area to pull a vacuum against. </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456923595098_9287"><span>Hank</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 6:04 AM, Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv7521581559"><div><div dir="ltr">The all-round white light is just a convenient (in some cases) way of combining the 225° white masthead light (indicating a power driven vessel), with the 135° white stern light into a single lamp. I am not aware of specific prescriptions in the international colregs for submarines. I thought amber strobes denoted ACV (hovercraft)?</div>
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<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv7521581559yqt1922944485" id="yiv7521581559yqtfd50082"><div class="yiv7521581559gmail_quote">On March 2, 2016 5:12:52 AM MST, John Kammerer via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<blockquote class="yiv7521581559gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;">
Antoine<div> </div><div>The lights show side lights (red and green), masthead light (lower white) special sub strobe (amber) and range light higher (white light) for vessels over 150' which is not always used on subs. </div><div> </div><div>Your boat is only required to display Port (Red) and Starboard (Green) side lights (For small boat under 40' combo light OK) and one all around (360 Deg.) white light. If underway after sunset or in reduced visibility.</div><div> </div><div>John K.</div><div>(203) 414-1000</div><div style="font-family:Verdana;"><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div>On Wed, Mar 02, 2016 at 05:05 AM, Antoine Delafargue via Personal_Submersibles wrote:<div> </div><div> </div><blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(136, 136, 136);border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;"><div dir="ltr">ok thank you<div>the 3 lights that the military subs use and that are!
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on the last link had me confused. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>in my case I am just less than 7m and less than 7kt so all round white light would be enough</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>regards</div><div>Antoine<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div></div><div class="yiv7521581559gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv7521581559gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:05 PM, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">MerlinSub@t-online.de</a> via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv7521581559gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;"><div><div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;">Here they are: </span></div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;">vbr Carsten</span></div><span>
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<div>Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lights</div>
<div>Datum: 2016-03-01T01:16:27+0100</div><span>
</span><div>Von: "John Kammerer via Personal_Submersibles" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></div>
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<div>Colregs allow for a vessel under 40' to display a combo red and green and an all around (360 deg) white to replace the masthead and stern lights.</div>
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On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 05:53 PM, Antoine Delafargue via Personal_Submersibles wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Carsten
<div>thanks for bringing this subject up. </div>
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<div>where did you find these rules for ligthing subs? international or european or german ones? </div>
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<div>-i tried in colreg rules online but could not find text for subs travelling on surface</div>
<div>-I found a reference to sub on some of the more comprehensive summary drawings showing all sorts of vessels (<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.sentinelpressllc.com/colregsnavigationlights.html">http://www.sentinelpressllc.com/colregsnavigationlights.html</a>). Subs to come in with left green side lights, as well as 3 mast lights white 225° /amber 360° /white 225°</div>
<div>-then the colreg rules for vertical separation of lights seem to say lower mast light 2m above deck mini, then other two lights at least 1m from each other (2m if boat over 20m long)</div>
<div>all in all this makes a christmas tree 4 m high from top deck...</div>
<div>-then also some online chat talking about exceptions for subs for height above water. </div>
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<div>for my litttle 6m boat I was planning to use off the shelf lights (2nm) and fit it in the acrylic tube which serves as mast and buoy (which i found the inspiration for looking at your videos!!), with its own power and IR remote switch</div>
<div>but it is only 1m long, not 4...</div>
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<div>regards</div>
<div>Antoine</div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;">Toplight 245</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;">Anchor Light 215</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;">Sternlight 230</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;">Strobelight abt. 250</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;">Portside light 215</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;">Starboard light. 215 </span></div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;">1370 Euro - 1500 USD</span></div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;">But on a 1-3 seater Psub you can run with just </span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;">One Anchor light and one combination Position ligh red and green </span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;">Together 215 + 239 = 454 Euro - 500 USD </span></div>
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<div>Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lights</div>
<div>Datum: 2016-02-29T21:21:36+0100</div>
<div>Von: "John Kammerer via Personal_Submersibles" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></div>
<div>An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></div>
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<div>The Lopo lights at rated for 600 m. A full setup for a vessel under 20 m with the special sub Strobe is about $2,300.</div>
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<div><br clear="none">On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>
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<div>Best,</div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;">they are called Lopolight. But wait one season for our results after diving..<br clear="none"></span></div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none;">They are very expensive too.. </span></div>
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<div>Betreff: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Euronaut's new lights</div>
<div>Datum: 2016-02-29T08:42:49+0100</div>
<div>Von: "Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></div>
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<div>Carsten, Are those new navigation lights something that you guys made? or adapted from some existing lights?</div>
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