<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7898"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8614">Hi Alec,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7900"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7899">I would get the Simrad forward scanning sonar. It does depth as well as forward scanning.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7900"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7913"><a href="http://www.simrad-yachting.com/en-GB/Products/Echosounders/Transducers/ForwardScan-Transducer-en-gb.aspx" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7911">http://www.simrad-yachting.com/en-GB/Products/Echosounders/Transducers/ForwardScan-Transducer-en-gb.aspx</a><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7900">I want a smalll screen so am looking at this compatible module.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7900"><a href="http://www.simrad-yachting.com/en-US/Products/NSS-Touchscreen-Navigation/simrad-nss7-evo2-en-us.aspx" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8889">http://www.simrad-yachting.com/en-US/Products/NSS-Touchscreen-Navigation/simrad-nss7-evo2-en-us.aspx</a><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7902">If you want side scan capability also; none of the screens accomodate both forward & side scan so you are up for</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7902">this computer processor as well. </div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7902"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8222"><font color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8221" class=""><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8220" class=""><a href="http://www.simrad-yachting.com/en-GB/Products/NSO-Systems-and-Marine-Monitors/Simrad-NSO-evo2-Marine-Processor-en-gb.aspx" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8216">http://www.simrad-yachting.com/en-GB/Products/NSO-Systems-and-Marine-Monitors/Simrad-NSO-evo2-Marine-Processor-en-gb.aspx</a></span></font><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7902">Cheers Alan</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7902" dir="ltr"><br></div><br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7905"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7904"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7903"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7907"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7906"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 14, 2015 9:56 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] lowrance multibeam.<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7990"><br><div id="yiv6423238364"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7993"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7992">Hi Alan,<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7991"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7995">Just out of curiosity, can you tell me what parts would go into your setup if you were to get them now? I'm not there yet, have a sub to build before I get a sonar for it, but am trying to figure out what is what. <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8084"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7994">Thanks,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Alec</div></div></div><div class="yiv6423238364gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7997"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv6423238364gmail_quote" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7996">On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv6423238364gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8001"><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv6423238364yqt9835233669" id="yiv6423238364yqt38726"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8000"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7999"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8124"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8123">I have all the measurements of the Simrad forward scan module & are planning them in to</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8420"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8419">my build. But I can see this sub taking a couple of years & I would probably be wise to</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8083"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8082">hold off buying, as the prices will go down & they will produce new models.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_7998"><span>Alan</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8213"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8006"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8005"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8004"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_9231"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8003"><span class="yiv6423238364" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8002"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Emile van Essen via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion' <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8125">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> </span><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 14, 2015 8:00 AM<span class="yiv6423238364" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8007"><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] lowrance multibeam.<br clear="none"> </span></font> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8010"><div class="yiv6423238364h5" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8009"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8008"><br clear="none"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8016"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8015">
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8013"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8012"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8011">Hi Alan, Typical transducers
have no hollow spaces so they would be okay for at least our depths..</span></font></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8655"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"> </span></font></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8017"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8081"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8080">I cut the cable of my
Humminbird 999 SI transducer to mount it outside the hull. No problem
(well, at least not till 50
metres ..)</span></font></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8126"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"> </span></font></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8020"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8019"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8018">Alec, No direct
intentions to purchase but is a interesting psubs instrument. The sonar should
work without GPS but better know for sure.</span></font></div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442186736151_8021"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Emile</span></font></div>
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<div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div><div><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold;">Van:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">
Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Namens </span></b>Alan James via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Verzonden:</span></b> zondag 13 september 2015
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Aan:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Onderwerp:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
lowrance multibeam.</span></font></div></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">Hi
Emile,</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">I
have been looking at the simrad forward scan. And have talked with</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">sales
reps & the N.Z. Simrad manager. Both simrad & Lowrance are Navico
brands.</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">You
plug the transducer in to the gen2 module which has GPS. So you can't get away</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">without
buying that module.</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">They
do the software here in Auckland, but Navico is based in Tulsa Oklahoma. </span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">Doug
of submarineboat lives there & has been experimenting with adapting a
scanning unit </span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">for
his rov.</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">They
make the transducers somewhere in Europe, & I haven't found out yet what
pressure they are rated for.</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">The
N.Z. manager seemed to think that if you tried to shoot through the hull it
wouldn't work well & it isn't</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">promoted
with that capacity. However a knowlegeable sales rep thought that if I coated
the transducer with</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">a
thin layer of fiberglass & had it external to the hull it would operate OK.
Just make sure there are no air voids </span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">between
the transducers plastic housing & the fiberglass.</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">Be
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">Cheers
Alan</span></font></div>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">forgot the link..</span></font><font color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold;">Van:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;"> Personal_Submersibles
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Onderwerp:</span></b> [PSUBS-MAILIST]
lowrance multibeam.</span></span></font><font color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">Hi,</span></font><font color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">Lowrance is offering a affordable multibeam fishfinder .</span></font><font color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">Would be nice for a Psub.. </span></font><font color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">Does somebody know if the unit is working without GPS signal?</span></font><font color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">Regards, Emile
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