<div dir="ltr">Hi Alan,<div><br></div><div>Just out of curiosity, can you tell me what parts would go into your setup if you were to get them now? I'm not there yet, have a sub to build before I get a sonar for it, but am trying to figure out what is what. <div><br></div><div>Thanks,<br><br>Alec</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span>I have all the measurements of the Simrad forward scan module & are planning them in to</span></div><div><span>my build. But I can see this sub taking a couple of years & I would probably be wise to</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>hold off buying, as the prices will go down & they will produce new models.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>Alan</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><br> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"><span class=""> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Emile van Essen via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion' <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br> </span><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 14, 2015 8:00 AM<span class=""><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] lowrance multibeam.<br> </span></font> </div><div><div class="h5"> <div><br><div><div>
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<div><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Hi Alan, Typical transducers
have no hollow spaces so they would be okay for at least our depths..</span></font></div>
<div><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> </span></font></div>
<div><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I cut the cable of my
Humminbird 999 SI transducer to mount it outside the hull. No problem
(well, at least not till 50
metres ..)</span></font></div>
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<div><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Alec, No direct
intentions to purchase but is a interesting psubs instrument. The sonar should
work without GPS but better know for sure.</span></font></div>
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Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Namens </span></b>Alan James via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none">
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<div style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">Hi
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<div style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">I
have been looking at the simrad forward scan. And have talked with</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">sales
reps & the N.Z. Simrad manager. Both simrad & Lowrance are Navico
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<div style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">You
plug the transducer in to the gen2 module which has GPS. So you can't get away</span></font></div>
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buying that module.</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">They
do the software here in Auckland, but Navico is based in Tulsa Oklahoma. </span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">Doug
of submarineboat lives there & has been experimenting with adapting a
scanning unit </span></font></div>
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his rov.</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">They
make the transducers somewhere in Europe, & I haven't found out yet what
pressure they are rated for.</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">The
N.Z. manager seemed to think that if you tried to shoot through the hull it
wouldn't work well & it isn't</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">promoted
with that capacity. However a knowlegeable sales rep thought that if I coated
the transducer with</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">a
thin layer of fiberglass & had it external to the hull it would operate OK.
Just make sure there are no air voids </span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">between
the transducers plastic housing & the fiberglass.</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">The
simrad transducer looks to be more of a solid compact unit than the lowrance
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<div style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">Be
interested to see how you go, or if you find any more information.</span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">Cheers
Alan</span></font></div>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Onderwerp:</span></b> [PSUBS-MAILIST]
lowrance multibeam.</span></span></font><font color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"></span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Hi,</span></font><font color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"></span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Lowrance is offering a affordable multibeam fishfinder .</span></font><font color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"></span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Would be nice for a Psub.. </span></font><font color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"></span></font></div>
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<div style="background:white"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Does somebody know if the unit is working without GPS signal?</span></font><font color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"></span></font></div>
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