<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17405"><span>Vance,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17405" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17911">what about towing from a low point at the front?</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17405" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17870">One of my thoughts was to have a low frontal tow point with a short length</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17405" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17760">of rope from it with a clip on the end. This is clipped on to a higher point on the sub</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17405" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17761">when not in use & clipped on to the towing rope when needed. This is so that you don't get wet </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17405" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17909">trying to attach to a point below the water line.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17405" dir="ltr"><span>Alan</span></div><br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17378"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17377"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17376"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17406"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17385"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> personal_submersibles@psubs.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 10, 2015 6:35 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Towing...<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17906"><br><div id="yiv1672812166"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17908"><font id="yiv1672812166role_document" color="#000000" size="2" face="Arial">
</font><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_17907"><font size="3">James,</font></div>
<div><font size="3">Before you weld towing eyes on the front of your battery pods,
you might try making some circular clamps to go around the front of each pod and
attach towing eyes to those. </font></div>
<div><font size="3">That way you could test the concept first and possibly refine
it.</font></div>
<div><font size="3">Jim</font></div>
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<div>In a message dated 9/9/2015 1:10:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
personal_submersibles@psubs.org writes:</div>
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<div>The Bionic Guppy is pretty long and heavy
though.<br clear="none">Hank</div></td></tr></tbody></table>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">From:</span> </b>via Personal_Submersibles
<personal_submersibles@psubs.org>; <br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">To:</span>
</b><personal_submersibles@psubs.org>; <br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Subject:</span> </b>Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Towing...
<br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Sent:</span> </b>Wed, Sep 9, 2015
5:02:51 PM <br clear="none"></div><br clear="none">
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18010"><tbody id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18009"><tr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18008"><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18007"><font color="black" size="3" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18006"><font class="yiv1672812166Apple-style-span" size="3" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18005">If you pick up those three towing points so that everything pulls
evenly in calm water, it will go a long way toward keeping things stable
when things start pushing and pulling in different
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18015"><font class="yiv1672812166Apple-style-span" size="3">Vance<br clear="none"></font><br clear="none"><br clear="none">
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Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
<personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none">Sent: Wed, Sep 9,
2015 12:04 pm<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Towing...<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18025">Thanks Vance, </div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18028">I did think of maybe towing from the battery pods. Maybe i'll
weld on a couple of towing eyes. Something else I should have
thought of before..... </div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18029">will check out options later. </div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18030">regards </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18031">James </div></div>
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<div class="yiv1672812166gmail_quote" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18034">On 9 September 2015 at 16:38, via
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<blockquote class="yiv1672812166gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT:1ex;BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18036"><font color="black" size="3" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18043"><font size="3" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18042">The force applied that high and that close to the center of
gravity will make her dive and squirm. Pull hard enough, she'll crab
out to one side and roll toward the boat. It will be hard not to spill
your tea.</font> </font>
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Message-----<br clear="none">From: James Frankland via
Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="javascript:return" title-off="" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="javascript:return" title-off="" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"></span><span>Sent: Wed, Sep 9, 2015 9:21 am<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Towing...<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></span>
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<div>That's what I was thinking. However, there is a video of
someone towing Bionic Guppy and they are pulling it from the lifting
eye. Different boat though. </div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18050"><span>Hi James,</span> </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18056"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441828239724_18055">I think you need to tow from the front leading edge to
avoid crabbing.</span> </div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">On Wednesday, September 9, 2015
3:36 AM, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="javascript:return" title-off="" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>>
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<div>Hi All, </div>
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<div>Has anyone towed a K boat from the forward lifting eye?
<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I am going to tow my boat to a better
diving location. I think the best place to tow it would be the
very front, on the hand rail mounting post. At this point
there is a 20mm stainless bar bolted through the forward tank and
into the framework. Although its a thick bar, I have a feeling
it might get damaged if I tow the boat from that point.
Forward lifting eye would be better but ive got a feeling it might
now tow very well. </div>
<div><br clear="none">Any thoughts? <br clear="none">Thanks </div>
<div>James </div>
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