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<td valign="top"><div dir="ltr">Just was a reference and dont told that you dont find coral, may be is an ancient reminder of the past when that was a coral reef, <br clear="none"></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="gmail_quote">2015-09-01 8:29 GMT-08:00 hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span>:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yqt4386687175" id="yqt31895"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div><span>I use the term coral because that is what the Provincial Park operator called
it.</span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div><div class="h5"> <br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 10:08 AM, roberto alvarez via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div><div><div><div dir="ltr">Hi, i found on a lake in mexicali baja ca were i live a litlle red worm, this worm build similar structures as use the mud to buld structures similar to the coral formations, is
not coral just complicate mud structures were another underwater critters live, plants grow and are full of ilfe, may be is something that need more study<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"><div>2015-09-01 4:23 GMT-08:00 hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span>:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div><span>Alan,</span></div><div><span>It is not my discovery, it is well known that the coral </span>exists in Premier Lake. </div><div dir="ltr">Tim, we should plan a trip to Pavilion Lake with Gamma for the spring. I will put a trim tank in
Gamma so there is no risk of hitting the bottom. I have been thinking about a plastic trim tank anyways to reduce the dry weight of the sub after the pod is on. The down side of the pod is the extra towing weight.</div><div dir="ltr">Hank</div><div><div> <br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 12:34 AM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div><div><div><div
style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><span>OK Hank, </span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>you might have to think up a name for your new discovery.</span></div><div dir="ltr">Any suggestions???</div><div dir="ltr">Alan</div><br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div><div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion' <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:16 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new video<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div><br clear="none"><div><div><div><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">This looks really interesting, Hank, Alan. They look very similar to shallow water microbialites in Pavilion Lake that I took photos of five years ago.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Do you have a close-up photo of this stuff? What depth was this video taken? It is worth investigating further.</span></div><div><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">The so called "fresh water coral" in Pavilion Lake is cyano-bacteria microbialites. Very common in fossil form but ridiculously rare in living form. So far found living only in Pavilion Lake and Kelly Lake in BC, and in a high mountain lake in Chile. That's really about it. I will send the video link to Donnie Reid at Nuytco, who is the project manager for the ongoing NASA Pavilion Lake Research Project (PLRP). PLRP was a significant joint NASA and CSA space analogue project investigating these ancient life forms that may be similar to life, or fossil life, located on Mars. For several years Nuytco had the DW2000's in Pavilion and trained various American and Canadian astronauts and astrobiologists in space analogue research. NASA had their Mobile Mission Control Center there as well. I dropped in on the 2010 , 2011, and 2014 events in my
official capacity as PLRP groupie (actually, in 2010 I visited as the project manager for the BC Institute of Technology Underwater Observatory project). PLRP is now a much scaled down NASA funded project, mostly out of NASA Ames Research Center with researchers from several American and Canadian universities attending. Of course, Nuytco now provides DW2000's for NASA's NEEMO missions at the Aquarius manned undersea habitat off Key Largo. </span></div><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Check out the web site <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.pavilionlake.com/">www.pavilionlake.com</a>.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Pavilion Lake is a very clear lake, but not because the microbialites are filter feeders. The microbiologists and limnologists are still trying to figure these creatures
out. Take note that Pavilion Lake has very restrictive diving regulations. There are only two sites where scuba diving is allowed. Subs are not specifically mentioned in the restrictions, but NASA and CSA get special permits from the feds and province to operate outside of those designated areas for sub-surface operations (divers, ROV's, and submersibles). Surprisingly, gasoline powered vessels are still allowed on the lake. We checked out the launch ramp last summer and you should be able to launch your sub from your current trailer without unhooking. But bring the tow straps just in case. Apart from the microbialites growing on anything solid (rocks, logs, sticks, pop cans), the bottom is soft.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">2010 anecdote: DW2000's are actually quite noisy underwater.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;">Tim</span></div><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><div><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> August-30-15 9:15 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br
clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new video</span></div></div></div><div> </div><div><div>Your link went to the official "Pepper Pig" site.</div></div><div><div>Try this </div></div><div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i_KaFRz8Vpk">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i_KaFRz8Vpk</a></div></div><div><div>Cool, be interesting to see if anyones found the coral in that Lake before.</div></div><div><div>Tim has marine biology interests, wonder if he knows anything about it.</div></div><div><div>Alan<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div></div><div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><br clear="none">On 31/08/2015, at 11:38 am, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:</div></div><blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">I just posted two video's from today's dive. Amazing freshwater coral images. <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://youtube.com/">Youtube.com</a> under Hank Pronk</span></div></div><div><div style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">Hank</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank"
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