<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441109695631_3781"><span>Alan,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441109695631_3781"><span>It is not my discovery, it is well known that the coral </span>exists in Premier Lake. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441109695631_3781" dir="ltr">Tim, we should plan a trip to Pavilion Lake with Gamma for the spring. I will put a trim tank in Gamma so there is no risk of hitting the bottom. I have been thinking about a plastic trim tank anyways to reduce the dry weight of the sub after the pod is on. The down side of the pod is the extra towing weight.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441109695631_3781" dir="ltr">Hank</div> <br><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 12:34 AM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3606958348"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_2862"><span id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_2861">OK Hank, </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_2862"><span id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_2865">you might have to think up a name for your new discovery.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_2862">Any suggestions???</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_2862">Alan</div><br clear="none"> <div id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_2910" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_2909" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv3606958348yqt8930698324" id="yiv3606958348yqt73241"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_2908"> <hr id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_2907" size="1"> <font id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_2911" size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion' <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:16 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new video<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv3606958348y_msg_container" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_2912"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv3606958348"><style>#yiv3606958348 --
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#yiv3606958348 </style><div id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3009"><div class="yiv3606958348WordSection1" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3008"><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">This looks really interesting, Hank, Alan. They look very similar to shallow water microbialites in Pavilion Lake that I took photos of five years ago.</span></div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3107"><span id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3106" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Do you have a close-up photo of this stuff? What depth was this video taken? It is worth investigating further.</span></div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3028"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3027"><span id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3026" style="font-size:11.0pt;">The so called "fresh water coral" in Pavilion Lake is cyano-bacteria microbialites. Very common in fossil form but ridiculously rare in living form. So far found living only in Pavilion Lake and Kelly Lake in BC, and in a high mountain lake in Chile. That's really about it. I will send the video link to Donnie Reid at Nuytco, who is the project manager for the ongoing NASA Pavilion Lake Research Project (PLRP). PLRP was a significant joint NASA and CSA space analogue project investigating these ancient life forms that may be similar to life, or fossil life, located on Mars. For several years Nuytco had the DW2000's in Pavilion and trained various American and Canadian astronauts and astrobiologists in space analogue research. NASA had their Mobile Mission Control Center there as well. I dropped in on the 2010 , 2011, and 2014 events in my official capacity as PLRP groupie (actually, in 2010 I visited as the project manager for the BC Institute of Technology Underwater Observatory project). PLRP is now a much scaled down NASA funded project, mostly out of NASA Ames Research Center with researchers from several American and Canadian universities attending. Of course, Nuytco now provides DW2000's for NASA's NEEMO missions at the Aquarius manned undersea habitat off Key Largo. </span></div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3025"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Check out the web site <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.pavilionlake.com/">www.pavilionlake.com</a>.</span></div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3024"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3022"><span id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3023" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Pavilion Lake is a very clear lake, but not because the microbialites are filter feeders. The microbiologists and limnologists are still trying to figure these creatures out. Take note that Pavilion Lake has very restrictive diving regulations. There are only two sites where scuba diving is allowed. Subs are not specifically mentioned in the restrictions, but NASA and CSA get special permits from the feds and province to operate outside of those designated areas for sub-surface operations (divers, ROV's, and submersibles). Surprisingly, gasoline powered vessels are still allowed on the lake. We checked out the launch ramp last summer and you should be able to launch your sub from your current trailer without unhooking. But bring the tow straps just in case. Apart from the microbialites growing on anything solid (rocks, logs, sticks, pop cans), the bottom is soft.</span></div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">2010 anecdote: DW2000's are actually quite noisy underwater.</span></div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3021"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3020"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Tim</span></div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3108"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3019"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv3606958348qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3606958348yqt8064237725" id="yiv3606958348yqt22522"><div id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3018"><div id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3017" style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3016"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;">From:</span></b><span id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3015" lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;"> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> August-30-15 9:15 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new video</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3014"> </div><div id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3013"><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3012">Your link went to the official "Pepper Pig" site.</div></div><div id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3011"><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3010">Try this </div></div><div id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3007"><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3006"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1441088341296_3005" target="_blank" href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i_KaFRz8Vpk">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i_KaFRz8Vpk</a></div></div><div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal">Cool, be interesting to see if anyones found the coral in that Lake before.</div></div><div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal">Tim has marine biology interests, wonder if he knows anything about it.</div></div><div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal">Alan<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div></div><div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><br clear="none">On 31/08/2015, at 11:38 am, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:</div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div><div id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1440977745224_3513"><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">I just posted two video's from today's dive. Amazing freshwater coral images. <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://youtube.com/">Youtube.com</a> under Hank Pronk</span></div></div><div id="yiv3606958348yui_3_16_0_1_1440977745224_3513"><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">Hank</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div class="yiv3606958348MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv3606958348yqt8064237725" id="yiv3606958348yqt84732">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div><br><div class="yqt8930698324" id="yqt67359">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>