<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span>Darn,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8842"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_9684">I was going to talk you in to an idea I had if you didn't.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8841"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8840">Some depth sounders are mounted inboard & shoot through up to 1/2" of fiberglass.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8387"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8839">If you made a tiny viewport with a peice of fiberglass in it, you could shoot through</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8386"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8845">that & keep the transducer & wiring in the hull.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8386"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8530">You were talking about oil getting out through the wiring plug on your light; </span>I had an extention cord</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8386">plug hanging out my house window, but off the ground while I water blasted two days ago.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8386">The wires outer sheathing had pulled away from the plug & water had run down the cable in to the plug.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8386"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8585">I was covered in water when I went to pull the plugs apart & got a good ZAP.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8386"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_9432">Don't make a habit of swearing but...</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8385"><span>Alan</span></div><br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_7870"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_7869"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8384"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8388"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_9141"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_9144"><span style="font-weight:bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_9143">From:</span></b> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 28, 2015 9:31 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_7868"><br><div id="yiv3778296259"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_7867"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_7866"><div id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440711053637_3034"><span id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440711053637_3033">Alan,</span></div><div id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440711053637_3036"><span id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440711053637_3035">Yes I sure do,</span></div><div id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440711053637_3038"><span id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440711053637_3037">Hank</span></div> <br clear="none"><div class="yiv3778296259qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8383"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3778296259yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_7875"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_7874"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_7873"> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv3778296259yqt8459732130" id="yiv3778296259yqt01453"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_7872"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_7871"> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 2:57 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv3778296259y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_7899"><div id="yiv3778296259"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_7898"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_7897"><div id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_9811"><span>Hank,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_9811"><span id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_10027">do you have a depth sounder on Gamma so you know</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_9811"><span>when you are approaching bottom</span>?</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_9811"><span>Alan</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_9811"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><br clear="none"> <div id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_10025" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_10024" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv3778296259yqt0947257865" id="yiv3778296259yqt30662"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_10023"> <hr id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_10026" size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_9735"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 28, 2015 8:13 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv3778296259y_msg_container" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_10045"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv3778296259"><div id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_10048"><div id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_10047" style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_10051"><span>Alan,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_10046"><span>I agree, I </span>need to dive slower, I have a video from yesterday with a very nice touch down. As a rule I have been going down fast and using the vertical thrusters as breaks. When I dive fast, there is a bit to much momentum built up, thats all. The video I posted shows what not to do :-)</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_10050">I did not put the brakes on. </div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_9736">I will get my lead weight situation sorted out. </div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_10049">Hank</div> <br clear="none"><div class="yiv3778296259qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8735"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3778296259yahoo_quoted" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_10098" style="display:block;"> <div id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_10097" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440706172861_10096" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv3778296259qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8736"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3778296259yqt2148669344" id="yiv3778296259yqt63099"><div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 1:14 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv3778296259y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8593"><div id="yiv3778296259"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8592"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8591">Hank,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8594">you said you know the bottom is soft & sink fast.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8595">I am a bit concerned as I have read of subs getting temporarily stuck in the mud</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8596">on the bottom. Haven't heard of any getting permanently stuck but there is always</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8597">a first time. Have also heard of them picking up a lot of weight in the form of mud.</div><div> Would be good if there was a quick easy lead transference system. </div><div>Maybe Alec's buoy system is the simplest & easiest to use!</div><div>Just clip on a number of buoys that account for the weight of the passenger.</div><div>With lead it has to be placed low, so when doing dive ops it would need to go</div><div>in through the hatch to the hull bottom. </div><div>Alec's system has the buoys in a tube, but I am thinking that they could all have</div><div>short cords on them, with clips to attach to various points on the top of the sub.</div><div>Alan </div><div><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8730"><br clear="none">On 28/08/2015, at 2:27 am, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8729">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8611"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8610"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8609"><div id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440684738733_2845"><span>Sean,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440684738733_2845"><span id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440684738733_3566">This is the big debate, VBT or no VBT. I used to like the idea of no VBT and that is the way the Nekton subs operate, just not sure eanymore. I have to admit, my regulator idea is riddled with potential problems. I am just being lazy, if I keep the sub with in 15 lbs (as per the operating manual) or less of buoyant with tanks flooded, and I pay attention, it is easy to operate. I can sink as slow as I want and hover at any depth if I take my time. I need to correct a bad habit that I have. I know the bottom is soft, so I sink fast. I need to practice what I preach and always sink as if there is a hard hazard below. </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440684738733_2845"><span>Hank</span></div> <br clear="none"><div class="yiv3778296259qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3778296259yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8608"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8607"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8606"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 7:26 AM, Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv3778296259y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8605"><div id="yiv3778296259"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8604"><div dir="ltr">Hank, your best bet is to arrange your MBTs such thatrou they flood completely every time with no residual bubble(s), at which point you should have very slight positive buoyancy when correctly ballasted. Add a small VBT, either internally or externally in a hard tank (you could blow this with HP air instead of pumping, but would need to valve it to isolate it from ambient pressure changes), to compensate for minor crew weight differences, and compensate for the major ones by adding or removing lead.</div>
<div class="yiv3778296259yqt3097804199" id="yiv3778296259yqtfd26723"><div dir="ltr">You want to avoid a situation where a depth change creates a buoyancy change, except in the sole case where you have blown your tanks to ascend.</div>
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<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv3778296259yqt6208116055" id="yiv3778296259yqtfd46320"><div class="yiv3778296259gmail_quote" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8674">On August 27, 2015 7:13:27 AM MDT, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="yiv3778296259gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8673">
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8672"><tbody id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8671"><tr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8670"><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8669"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8668">Alan,<br clear="none">It won't work unless there is a check valve between the second stage regulator and the ballast tank. Okay to complicated, bad idea.<br clear="none">Hank <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8667"><br clear="none"> <div style="font-size:0.9em;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8666"><br clear="none"> <hr size="1"><br clear="none"> <b><br clear="none"> <span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span><br clear="none"> </b><br clear="none"> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles ; <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <b><br clear="none"> <span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span><br clear="none"> </b><br clear="none"> Personal Submersibles General Discussion ; <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <b><br clear="none"> <span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span><br clear="none"> </b><br clear="none"> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new video <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <b><br clear="none"> <span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span><br clear="none"> </b><br clear="none"> Thu, Aug 27, 2015 11:36:09 AM <br clear="none"><br clear="none">
</div><br clear="none"> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8682"><tbody id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8681"><tr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8680"><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8679"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8678"><div><span>Alan,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440673788233_2986"><span>I am not sure if my </span>idea will work . When I sink Gamma, there is an air bubble remaining in the ballast tank, the size is determined by the weight of the sub. If I have a first and second stage regulator feeding air to the ballast tank, the regulator will feed air into the ballast tank as I sink keeping the bubble the same size while I sink. Right now it is completely manual and takes practise but it works. I can use both systems ( manual or regulated) by simply turning the air supply on or off to the external regulators. With the regula!
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weight. </div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440673788233_2986">Hank</div> <br clear="none"><div class="yiv3778296259qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8677"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3778296259yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8693"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8692"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8691"> <div class="yiv3778296259yqt1649066208" id="yiv3778296259yqt52696"><div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:03 AM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv3778296259y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8690"><div id="yiv3778296259"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8689"><div>Thanks Hank,</div><div>must be this one, the umbrella dive.</div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sflIEnkTth4">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sflIEnkTth4</a></div><div>Sent a reply to your post about using a second stage attached to your</div><div>ballast tank, but it didn't come back to me.</div><div>not sure how it would work!</div><div>Alan<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div class="yiv3778296259yqt7882620191" id="yiv3778296259yqt69389"><div><br clear="none">On 27/08/2015, at 1:30 pm, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8688"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8687"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8686"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440638982967_2475">made some dive<br clear="none"> video's today, posted one on youtube under Hank
Pronk</div></div></div></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8725"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8724"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br clear="none"><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br clear="none"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br clear="none"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><br clear="none"></div></blockquote></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv3778296259yqt7882620191" id="yiv3778296259yqt10294">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div> </div> </div> </div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><br clear="none"> </div><br clear="none"> </div><br clear="none"> <br clear="none"></td></tr></tbody></table> <div id="yiv3778296259_origMsg_">
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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8706"><tbody id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8705"><tr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8704"><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8703"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8702"><div><span>Alan,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440673788233_2986"><span>I am not sure if my </span>idea will work . When I sink Gamma, there is an air bubble remaining in the ballast tank, the size is determined by the weight of the sub. If I have a first and second stage regulator feeding air to the ballast tank, the regulator will feed air into the ballast tank as I sink keeping the bubble the same size while I sink. Right now it is completely manual and takes practise but it works. I can use both systems ( manual or regulated) by simply turning the air supply on or off to the external regulators. With the regulator system, I would not have to worry about keeping the sub at an ideal weight.
</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440673788233_2986">Hank</div> <br clear="none"><div class="yiv3778296259qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3778296259yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8714"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8713"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8712"> <div class="yiv3778296259yqt2388334806" id="yiv3778296259yqt46867"><div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:03 AM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv3778296259y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8711"><div id="yiv3778296259"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8710"><div>Thanks Hank,</div><div>must be this one, the umbrella dive.</div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sflIEnkTth4">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sflIEnkTth4</a></div><div>Sent a reply to your post about using a second stage attached to your</div><div>ballast tank, but it didn't come back to me.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8709">not sure how it would work!</div><div>Alan<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div class="yiv3778296259yqt7882620191" id="yiv3778296259yqt69389"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8716"><br clear="none">On 27/08/2015, at 1:30 pm, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1440710734993_8717" href="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv3778296259yui_3_16_0_1_1440638982967_2475">made some dive
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