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#yiv0972861576 </style><div><div class="yiv0972861576WordSection1"><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Hank, If you are worried about the welding then you can pressure test them to 1.5 what you are going to rate the chamber at.  Hugh</span></div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">  </span></div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">  </span></div><div class="yiv0972861576yqt7601205825" id="yiv0972861576yqt04028"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 19 August 2015 1:12 p.m.<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw:</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal">  </div><div><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439946298762_4336"><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">Hi Hugh,</span></div></div><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439946298762_4336"><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">Funny you mention that, I happen to have two NG tanks I found at the dump.  Man are they heavy, it was a grunt to load them by myself.  I am worried about the material and welding them.  My feeling is they might be hard to weld safely.  At least with my welding knowledge.    Your right they would make a nice chamber though.  I am picking up my Perry thrusters in the USA on Friday and will give my chamber a go on the weekend.  </span></div></div><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439946298762_4336"><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">Hank</span></div></div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">  </span></div><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">  </span></div></div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 5:57 PM, Hugh Fulton via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:</span><span style=""></span></div></div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="">  </span></div><div><div id="yiv0972861576"><div><div><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Hi Hank,</span><span style=""></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Have a look for some steel NGV (natural gas Vehicle) or CNG  cylinders.  They are rated for 3000 psi generally and there are bound to be some at some scrappy’s yard.  If you can get a 70 litre or such then chop off the top and weld a couple of plates on.  They are at least 10” inside diameter.  I have a couple marked for test chambers.  Good for at least 5000 ft depth test pressure.  Hugh</span><span style=""></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span><span style=""></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span><span style=""></span></div></div><div id="yiv0972861576yqt17992"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Personal_Submersibles [<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 19 August 2015 11:05 a.m.<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw:</span><span style=""></span></div></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439939058829_4267"><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">Nice thing about big hydraulic cylinders, they are cheap because they are impractical for most things.</span><span style=""></span></div></div></div><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439939058829_4268"><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">I think I will add electric penetrators so I can test thrusters while they are running.</span><span style=""></span></div></div></div><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439939058829_4268"><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">Hank</span><span style=""></span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;"> </span><span style=""></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;"> </span><span style=""></span></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 4:53 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:</span><span style=""></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div id="yiv0972861576"><div><div><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439938185313_3320"><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Good improvisation Hank,</span></div></div></div><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439938185313_3318"><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">would not have thought of using a hydraulic cylinder.</span></div></div></div><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439938185313_3318"><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Will keep an eye out for one.</span></div></div></div><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439938185313_3318"><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Alan</span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439938185313_3259"><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439938185313_3258"><div id="yiv0972861576yqt38476"><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439938185313_3314"><div align="center" class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;background:white;"><span style=""></span><hr align="center" size="1" width="100%"></div><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"><b id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439938185313_3316">Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 19, 2015 7:33 AM<br clear="none"><b id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439938185313_3312">Subject:</b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fw:</span><span style=""></span></div></div></div><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439938185313_3257"><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div id="yiv0972861576"><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439938185313_3256"><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439938185313_3255"><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439926201658_3694"><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">Today I had some time to kill, so I built a pressure chamber big enough to fit a thruster.  I can fit 6 by 20 inches up to 2,000 psi.  The chamber was a hydraulic cylinder from a crane and is surprisingly  light.  Next time I have my pressure washer running I will wash it and paint it up nice.  I just have to un-screw the top to open it up.</span><span style=""></span></div></div></div><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439926201658_3694"><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;">Hank</span><span style=""></span></div></div></div><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439926201658_3698"><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439926201658_3697"><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439926201658_3696"><div id="yiv0972861576yui_3_16_0_1_1439926201658_3695"><div><div class="yiv0972861576MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 1:27 PM, xxx xxxxx <<a rel="nofollow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