<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks Emile, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Good ideas, I´ll check the Dehumidifier you mentioned, and of course the new Raymarine Flux as well.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers, Lasse</div><div class=""><br class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">6 aug 2015 kl. 23:51 skrev Emile van Essen via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" class="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" class="">Hi Lasse,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" class=""> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" class="">I have good results wit a small electric Peltier dehumidifier. Normally I dry the interior after the dives but the dehumidifier brings it from 95% to 55 % in a day.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" class=""> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" class="">During dives you can experiment with a layer of Silica in the scrubber .<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" class=""> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" class="">I spoke today with a boatshop owner about compasses. He told Raymarine has a new fluxgate sensor with build in gyro’s. This to compensate magnetic anomalies and heavy sea state.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" class=""> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" class="">Best regards, Emile<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" class=""> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" class=""> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" class=""> </span></font></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-align: center;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1" class=""></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><b class=""><font size="2" face="Tahoma" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;" class="">Van:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Personal_Submersibles [<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" class="">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Namens<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Lasse Schmidt via Personal_Submersibles<br class=""><b class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Verzonden:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>donderdag 6 augustus 2015 22:02<br class=""><b class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Aan:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br class=""><b class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Onderwerp:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Heating elements</span></font><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></font></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Sean,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></font></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">I am trying to battle the moist from two fronts. The first is to keep the all the electronics heated pretty much all the time, even when I´m not using the sub and it is docked. The other is to install some kind of dehumidifier into the cabin that will run when the sub is not used. Kitty Litter is a good idea but I need something cleaner and easier to handle. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></font></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Regarding the discussion about the compass issue, I´m using a fluxgate mounted about a meter over the hatch and an electric aviation heading gyro. The fluxgate is very sensitive to magnetic underwater rocks so it can not be trusted for longer navigations. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></font></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Lasse<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></font></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">6 aug 2015 kl. 14:48 skrev Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>>:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></font></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Are all of your electronics confined to sealed enclosures? Or are you struggling to keep the cabin humidity down?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">You may have better luck condensing the moisture out with a cooling coil and draining it, rather than relying on heat to drive the %RH down, except in a truly sealed enclosure. For enclosures that you don't need to open frequently, dessicants may suffice.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">If you are only concerned about one or two specific components, you might look at aftermarket conformal coatings. These can raise moisture tolerance to 100% RH non-condensing for many components.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Sean<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></font></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">On August 5, 2015 9:11:10 AM CDT, Lasse Schmidt via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class=""><font size="2" face="Courier New" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">Hey guys,<br class="">
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I´m looking for heating elements to mount in our electronic boxes and remote. Any pointers what to search for and where? I´m not even sure how they look like. <br class="">
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We have so far almost 250 dives with Malen this year, after the worst summer in decades with tons of rain in Sweden we´ll try to fight the moisture with some heating elements and a dehumidifier in the sub. The electronics does´t like to moisture for sure. All suggestions are super welcome.<br class="">
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