<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4252"><span>OK I follow.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4253"><span>So would the filter system filter out the smoke?</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4254"><span>I see firemen using compressed air, not filters.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4255"><span>Flown over Houston but never visited.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4256"><span>Alan</span></div><br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4259"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4258"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4257"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Lawrence via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion' <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 12, 2015 4:04 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4260"><br><div id="yiv2768673739"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4262">
<div align="left" dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4261"><span class="yiv2768673739160040003-12032015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Allen,</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span class="yiv2768673739160040003-12032015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4265"><span class="yiv2768673739160040003-12032015" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4264"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4263">No, not breathing pure O2, just enough to sustain you at the
normal needed consumption rate, this O2 is mixed with filtered and scrubbed
cabin air at the canister when you inhale.</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4266"><span class="yiv2768673739160040003-12032015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426129902082_4267"><span class="yiv2768673739160040003-12032015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">A one tam sub, I am in Houston Texas.</font></span></div>
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<div><span class="yiv2768673739160040003-12032015"></span><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">Adam</font></font></font></div>
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[mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan James
via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 11, 2015 9:46
PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<br clear="none"></font><br clear="none"></div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:16px;FONT-FAMILY:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;COLOR:#000;BACKGROUND-COLOR:#fff;">
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2857"><span id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2856">So are you breathing pure O2 in an emergency
situation?</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2855">I guess the only time you would
have a full face mask on</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2855">is when there is smoke in the
cabin from a fire.</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2855">If you breathed pure O2 you
would be adding more fuel to the</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2855">flames.</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2855">What sort of sub do you own Adam
& what part of the World are you from?</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2855">I'm down in N.Z.</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2855">Alan</div><br clear="none">
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<font id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2854" size="2" face="Arial"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Lawrence via
Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">To:</span></b> 'Personal Submersibles General
Discussion' <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:24
PM<br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
Ballast air<br clear="none"></font></div>
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<div align="left" dir="ltr" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2809"><span class="yiv2768673739-12032015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font></span>
<div class="yiv2768673739MsoNormal" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2808" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Hi Allen,</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;"></span></div>
<div class="yiv2768673739MsoNormal" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2811" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;"><font color="#000000"></font></span> </div>
<div class="yiv2768673739MsoNormal" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2812" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><span id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_5662" style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">What I have is simpler than a full blown
rebreather.</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;"></span></div>
<div class="yiv2768673739MsoNormal" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2813" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><span id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2814" style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">The oxygen supply/flow enters the cabin at the scrubber
canister. The canister has an air filter on it already (dust/smoke/hydrogen
sulfide...). The emergency piece of equipment is a full face mask with a hose
that connects to the scrubber assembly (fan off) on the inhale side, exhale goes
back into the cabin.</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;"></span></div>
<div class="yiv2768673739MsoNormal" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2815" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;"><font color="#000000"></font></span> </div>
<div class="yiv2768673739MsoNormal" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2816" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><span id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_2817" style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">The next simple version may be just a full face mask
with dust/vapor cartridge, good enough to keep your eyes and lungs clean while
making a quick ascent.</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;"></span></div>
<div class="yiv2768673739MsoNormal" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_5661" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;"><font color="#000000"></font></span> </div>
<div class="yiv2768673739MsoNormal" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_5660" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><span id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426127663472_5659" style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Those millionaires get all the
toys.</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;"></span></div>
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<div class="yiv2768673739MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Adam</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;"></span></div></div><br clear="none">
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<font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> Personal_Submersibles
[mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan James
via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 11, 2015
5:27 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<br clear="none"></font><br clear="none"></div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6154"><span>Hi
Adam,</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6154"><span id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6256">that would require a rebreather
style set up to do that.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6154">I believe they had
a rebreather back up on James Camerons sub.</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6154">A bit expensive
& complicated.</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6154">Alan</div><br clear="none">
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<font id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_7160" size="2" face="Arial"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Lawrence via
Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">To:</span></b> 'Personal
Submersibles General Discussion' <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March
12, 2015 8:27 AM<br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<br clear="none"></font></div>
<div class="yiv2768673739y_msg_container" id="yiv2768673739yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_7452"><br clear="none">For emergencies, wouldn’t you
use a full-face mask connected to a CO2<br clear="none">scrubber and air filter
and pure oxygen, all on the inhale side...<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Compressed scuba air would increase cabin pressure and make things<br clear="none">uncomfortable...<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-----Original
Message-----<br clear="none">From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>]<br clear="none">On Behalf Of hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none">Sent:
Wednesday, March 11, 2015 10:26 AM<br clear="none">To: Personal Submersibles
General Discussion<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Brian,<br clear="none">I don't mean
oxygen, I mean regular scuba air. I have and am sure all<br clear="none">other subs have scuba breathing apparatus for emergencies like
smoke. I<br clear="none">take air from my ballast supply for that
purpose. If your ballast air is<br clear="none">Nitrogen then you will need
an extra tank for emergency breathing. <br clear="none">Hank
--------------------------------------------<br clear="none">On Wed, 3/11/15,
Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>>
wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<br clear="none">To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion"<br clear="none"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">Received: Wednesday, March 11, 2015, 10:18 AM<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Yes, my oxygen will be a separate<br clear="none">tank, or tanks.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Brian<br clear="none"><br clear="none">--- <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none">wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">From: hank pronk via
Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br clear="none"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<br clear="none">Date: Wed, 11
Mar 2015 05:37:11 -0700<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Brian,<br clear="none">You
must be planning to have a separate tank for emergency air for<br clear="none">breathing, in case of fire etc.<br clear="none">Hank<br clear="none">--------------------------------------------<br clear="none">On Wed,
3/11/15, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
Ballast air<br clear="none"> To: "PSubs" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"> Received: Wednesday, March 11, 2015, 2:50 AM<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> I'm planning on having<br clear="none"> 3 - 300cu ft air cylinders for my ballast supply air.<br clear="none"> I noticed that if I get them filled with nitrogen it is<br clear="none"> cheaper than getting breathing or industrial air<br clear="none"> ! That is, until I get my own<br clear="none">
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